Not so much a rant, but...

Dec 25, 2008 00:51


A question:

Do you think that people wouldn't be so quick to judge Xion and call her a "Sue" if she was a boy? (Of course in that case it'd be "Stu", but whatever)

character-bashing, mary sue

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mzminola December 25 2008, 07:54:52 UTC
I'd guess that a young, pretty boy would still get called a Sue, but if the 14th member was built along the lines of, say, Lexaeus or Vexen, there'd be a pretty different reaction.

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kaiamara December 27 2008, 23:15:23 UTC
I'd love them if they were similar to Vexen but alas, not many people like them that much.

What do you think the reaction would be if the 14th was like Vexen or Lexaeus?

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mzminola December 28 2008, 01:48:36 UTC
As mentioned in other comments, probably some complaints about the addition of Yet More Males to Org.13 with no balancing gals. Probably some eyerolling about potential retconning. Some unthinking comments about his intelligence similar to what Lexaeus gets despite being a scientist.

Mostly, though, I just think there wouldn't be as much attention being paid to the 14th member. More disinterest. Focus getting shifted to Birth by Sleep characters instead. As is, with Xion acting as a distraction, Aqua's getting called a Mary Sue much less than I fear, despite the blue hair and keyblade and more complicated outfit.

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kokanshu December 25 2008, 09:09:53 UTC
There wouldn't be as many people saying it, but yes. The issue is the retcon insertion into the Org and then the keyblade. Doesn't matter what gender they are or what they look like, it's those two things that set off the alarms.

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ormery December 25 2008, 11:49:37 UTC
I'm sure some of the more obnoxious people who are only in it for the pretty mens would be objecting to her less noisily, but - although we won't know for sure until the game's actually out - Xion has plenty of characteristics that make suspicions of Sue/Stu/wevs-ism perfectly valid regardless of gender.

To be honest, I think that, if Xion were a guy, a lot of the people who are defending her as things stand now would be frowning at the idea of more Organization-cloaked pretty-boys and already complaining about the inevitable onslaught of yaoi fangirls shipping him with Roxas/Axel/everyone else.

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anthraxpretzels December 25 2008, 13:42:35 UTC
...Nah, it's KH fandom. I wouldn't be so quick to cry 'sexist omfg'

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pearlblade December 25 2008, 16:23:36 UTC
The reason people are crying 'Sue' is more because of how she's marketed actually. That and how she's being written that is giving her that title ( ... )

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burger December 25 2008, 17:48:26 UTC
Yes this.

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pearlblade December 26 2008, 02:04:18 UTC
(nods)
Someone needs to fire the Marketing department for this game. It's Sued out the whole game.

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