One more for good luck?

[keyboardninja]

The CM from LaCrosse asked why Jacen has not been fired. Here is my reply:

Why hasn't Jacen been fired? There are a few reasons:

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[perpetuallysad]

(2) is your least defensible position. It's a false dichotomy. I see at least three options: keep him, free him, kill him.

(3) "Pascek knew what he was getting into when he gave Jacen the badge, and until Jacen breaks a Tradition or a direct order, I see little reason to fire him."

I was under the impression that he had broken Domain according to a bunch of domains.

(4)
I don't see why any Justicar would allow someone to get away with publicly, sloppily, and loudly trying to kill one of their direct servants.

If they had Right of Destruction from the Prince, then it seems like Pascek would be overstepping the same bounds you implicitly defined by ignoring his breaches of Domain.

Yes, in WW Canon material there is a powerful prince or three that get away with acting against the Justicars and/or their Archons, but they are very, very powerful elders and exceptions to the rule.Were there any Princes in WW Canon that *weren't* portrayed as this powerful? Just because only a few did it doesn't mean it was written from the perspective

[stefhen19]

The Prince of Berlin (Wilhelm Waldberg in OWbN - WW named him Gustav but Waldberg predates the publication of WW's Berlin by Night) is known for killing Archons sent to his Domain.

That was Chicago 10 + years ago. They always sent Archon Gurgle; well that's all the archon got out before they were torpored and sent back in a box.

I came in at the tail end of it but Chris has some great stories. =)

[thisspacevacant]

That's awesome. I'll have to hit Chris up for some of those stories sometime. Most of what I know about that history I've picked up in bits and pieces, direct accounts would be nice. (:

[fallenalbatross]

Hodge also had the derangement where he thought he was completely invincible. He wasn't a pushover, because he would throw himself at packs headfirst without thinking.

His sire was also the real power in the city, and she was portrayed as if she could kill pretty much anyone before he saw it coming.

Although, I've only read about them in the Atlanta book (Necropolis?) which is mostly focused on wraiths. It doesn't say how Hodge died.

[thisspacevacant]

Hodge goes nuts in the middle of the battle, walks into a wall of Obtenebration and into the Abyss I think, and is later diablerized by Anatole for no decipherable reason. He fights off a lot of shovelheads but pretty much gets worn down (out of willpower and traits?) and goes off into a fugue.