Comments | keryx: somebody wrote a fatshionista post just for me!

keryx

somebody wrote a fatshionista post just for me!

Jul 16, 2007 20:05

It was ostensibly just costume photos from a member of the Detroit PURE group (and dude! they have THIRTY people!), but it sparked a couple of dismissive comments about cultural appropriation followed by some more investigative ones followed by some really unfounded notions that PERFORMANCE IS NEVER ACTIVIST ( Read more... )

dance, giant fatty, art

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we_are_pliable July 17 2007, 00:35:49 UTC

The comments in stupid_free are worth checking out, as well.

keryx July 17 2007, 03:24:01 UTC

Oh, wow. Internets, you spoil me! It's not even my birthday!

attrice July 17 2007, 04:11:35 UTC

heh, when I first saw that post, I was kind of waiting for the obligatory appropriation discussion.

And I totally get why people have questions and concerns and all that, but honestly these days I get so tired of having these big meta discussions about race and culture and white supremacy where 98% of the people in the discussion are white, ya know. Makes me think back to my early feminist days where I was always the first one to jump all over people for those kind of things. Makes me shudder to think about myself as so completely self-righteous all the time.

keryx July 26 2007, 03:04:00 UTC

I will say a decent chunk of the fatshionista crowd is not white - I've learned not to make assumptions about commenters' race in that community. BUT. A lot of the same people who jump all over race also get all pissed off when people talk about sexism. ARGH.

belladonnalin July 17 2007, 21:24:53 UTC

On a serious note, I do get that people who find bellydance troublesome have probably gotten tired of explaining why by now. Just because I don't get tired of examining that particular fish doesn't mean others are obliged to. But, really, people? If you're gonna bring it up, do you have to be such a dismissive ass about it? In my experience, people often haven't given thought to the cultural implications of dance shit, but they're pretty open to questioning it.*nod* The people who are all "oh, why do we have to think about that?" bug me, but they don't seem as common as the ones who just say "Well, it's appropriation, and I KNOW you haven't thought about it and blahblahblah ( ... )

keryx July 26 2007, 03:11:03 UTC

Word. I am also really not down with examinations of what art is and is not allowable by people who appear to neither make nor consume it. That probably makes me a classist by default (just because of the class associations with art in this country, not that they're logical), but people getting all hypercritical about shit they don't even guess at understanding... why? why do that? I don't get it.

cutegaychick July 31 2007, 04:48:35 UTC

Aww but you were so nice about it! If I were a little less PURE, I'd have said

"Boy, I'm sorry. It must be hard to appreciate art and beauty and fun when the chip on your shoulder is as big as the stick up your ass. I hope you feel better soon!"

Actually, I did try to say that but the community is friends only and hell, I didn't want to add those crazy people to my friends list.

keryx July 31 2007, 10:57:44 UTC

It's actually a pretty effing awesome community. It's just LJ - sometimes people who have perfectly valid points have them in enormously jackassy ways.