Nurses and Dumbledore

[kenshusei]

Hitting the dojo last night was EXACTLY what I needed. I feel tons better. Learned a lot, too.

I guess the guys felt bad about what has been going on with me, so they dragged their wives and children out to a big group dinner after class, so that I wouldn't be alone for the evening. We all ended up having a great time and stayed at the Chinese

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[kittengrin]

I don't think it's so much that the brusque nurses don't understand the importance of respect, it's just that an awful lot of them are completely burned out by their field (especially ICU nurses.) After years of critically ill, often angry, often rude, often (insert negative action here) patients, they wear down, and one of the first things to go is bedside manner. Those that DON'T wear down and succumb to things like compassion fatigue are rare. Note: I'm NOT excusing that kind of behavior. Just offering a possible explanation for it.

[madshutterbug]

And one of the hardest things for them to admit is that they're burned out, and need to change. Because even with the burnout, there is a comfort and a security in knowing how well one knows and deals with the place. It is extremely disconcerting to contemplate moving from one area, where one is acknowleged as an 'expert' into another, where one becomes a 'novice' again.

Yet at the same time, it is both one of the most vital things to do, and one of the few professions around where it is possible to do so without needing, necessarily, to adjourn to acadamia for a brand new degree.

[fatfred]

It's Respect.
Treat everything you come in contact with that way.
Damn well better treat humans that way.
Respect.
Books, tools, cars, machines. They will last longer and give you better service.
Any wonder that some folk who just elbow there way through life have problems with things breaking down on them? Items as well as relationships?

[madshutterbug]

I get the distinct feeling that if I touched those nurses in the manner they touched their disabled patients, they'd call it "battery".

If I were to touch any of my patients in the manner I do (with or without the respect which is a key point in your discussion) but for one key point, it indeed would be battery. And assault with weapons.

The key point is 'Informed Consent', wherein the individual receiving the care is informed of the benefits and risks involved in the treatment, that the belief of the professionals is that the benefits outweigh the risks, and consents to the treatment. In some situations, this Informed Consent must come from someone other than the individual needing the treatment, due to the nature of the disease or injury.

And yet, there is one additional point which then is required, along with that Consent, and that is, indeed, the respect with which that care and treatment is delivered. Because, and speaking from the point of view of someone delivering that care, if any injury is caused outside of the purvue of

[kenshusei]

I was referencing the common parlance of battery, and not the legal definition (voluntary act + intent + causation + harmful or offensive contact), but I take your point.

[madshutterbug]

Doh! And how was I to know that, you, you lawyer you? *G*

And really, at the essence of what we're discussing is it truly a difference?

[randomjerkb]

sorry, no can do on the movie. I r tired. Though, friday and saturday night are open to adventure...

[kenshusei]

Thanks!

I haven't done any recon, but I'm considering going up the weekend after this one, if people are going to be around.