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robinellen May 30 2011, 03:40:16 UTC
I've always thought he didn't like Frank because of how he saw Frank's attentions to Emma...I've also wondered if he wasn't trying to make Emma jealous (just a little bit?) ;)

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kellyrfineman May 30 2011, 05:13:31 UTC
He definitely didn't like Frank because he was jealous, but I think there are parts of Frank's conduct that he wouldn't have liked anyhow - the frivolity of going to London for a haircut, the perceived disrespect to Mrs Weston in not paying a call sooner, and some of the things to come are all included. Still, my guess is that while he might not ever approve of some of those behaviors, his active dislike is Emma-related.

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Agreed! kellyrfineman May 31 2011, 00:26:04 UTC
Yes. This.

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helgatwb June 4 2011, 03:35:05 UTC
I agree. Mr. Knightly won't approve anything Frank Churchill does, because of his jealousy. If he were to set up and run, in the most gentlemanly fashion, a charity for war orphans and widows, Mr. Knightly would say he didn't do it right.

So, Emma is moralising to herself. But she speaks as if she is talking to Mr. Knightly. She even says his name! Hmmmm.

And I got a little confused. Emma wasn't at the Cole's while her father and guests were eating dinner. But, she wasn't there to help them, and she was going to dinner with the Coles. Huh? What was she doing?

So, only some of them were invited to dinner. But it was perfectly okay to ask Miss Bates & co. just to tea, after having everyone else to eat? Class distinctions I just have no reference for, I guess.

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kellyrfineman June 4 2011, 04:42:51 UTC
Emma had set up a dinner at Hartfield for her father, Mrs Bates and Mrs Goddard, and before leaving, she did her best to feed the visitors, concerned that her father would try to dissuade them from eating the find dinner she'd ordered for them. Emma was indeed at the Coles for dinner.

And the invitation to Miss Bates et al. to come for tea (after dinner) was not a class distinction - or at least, not necessarily so. Sir Walter Elliot in Persuasion invited people only to tea in order to get out of springing for dinner; the Bennet sisters go to their aunt's house in Meryton for tea (following dinner) because only the Regiment was invited to dine. Oftentimes the dinner invitations were restricted due to the size of the dining room facilities. Tea could be served in the parlor to a much larger group.

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