Sometimes fandom is more annoying than it's worth.

[kattahj]

Being a Hook fangirl is getting really frustrating.

Which is my own damned fault, of course. I didn't have to go head over heels for the pretty bad boy. I usually manage to keep at least some sort of distance for the type. But not in this case

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[kattahj]

Well, at least I could properly hate Sylar and stay away from that part of fandom. (So, no, I don't remember those shippers, thank God. It's bad enough that I remember the Nathan/Claire shippers.) With Hook, I do want vids and fics and gif sets, I just want them to be better than this.

[hibernate]

Then there are the fans on both Hook's and Rumpelstiltskin's side who defend their boys to the death yet condemn Milah

I happened upon some of that the other day, and RAGE. Not saying she was a particularly good parent, but let's not even try to paint Rumpel as the good guy in that marriage. It's perfectly okay to like a ~morally challenged~ character, but come on, own the fact that they've done bad things and don't make excuses for it. Regina is my favourite, but it would be kind of silly to pretend she's not the actual evil queen, you know?

[kattahj]

Not saying she was a particularly good parent, but let's not even try to paint Rumpel as the good guy in that marriage.

I think when it comes to the actual marriage, they were both at fault, and that people don't realize that he was too because he was so meek about it - meek and nice get confused a lot more than they should. But as for everything that happened after she left, it's absolutely absurd to act as if she's worse than he is, not to mention that bullshit about deserving what was coming to her. And the people who go, "I like Hook, but I don't understand what he saw in that bitch," I mean, that would be LAUGHABLE if it wasn't so rage-inducing.

Regina is my favourite, but it would be kind of silly to pretend she's not the actual evil queen, you know?

Silly, and happening. Ohhh yes.

[kattahj]

so I can see why people don't extend the goodwill attendant on Rumpel's death as a point in Hook's favor, if that makes sense.

I don't think it's a point in his favour, but I don't see how it can be singled out as the primary reason not to like him, when there's such things around as trying to murder innocents, or trying to convince the girls that he's a harmless blacksmith, or heck, even bullying beggars.

And she doesn't answer, but I thought it was heavily implied from the framing of the scene and the look on her face that she would have vastly preferred that, at least, to what actually happened?

She does answer; she says, "I wish you'd fought." I think her feelings are probably pretty mixed, but that it's also clear that it's the dishonour that plagues her the most, not his presence in her life. Her suggestion that they move town comes almost immediately after; getting away from the situation is more important to her than getting away from the marriage. It's a "with your shield or on it"-mentality that's pretty messed up, but

[kattahj]

I just think most people don't think about Rumpel's other wrongdoings when they consider him in relation to Hook's SL, because Hook doesn't care about everything else Rumpel's done, either.

Yeah, I think it's partly that, and partly the common philosophy perpetuated by shows, of "if it didn't happen to someone we love, it doesn't matter."

Oh cool, thanks for the clarification, I'd forgotten that.

Possibly I've watched this stuff too many times. :-) Though rewatching again now, I find that I'd still forgotten something - after that, she also says, "Don't you?"

[lilacsigil]

OH noes, a female character left her marriage and child, SHE IS SATAN INCARNATE! Rumplestiltskin, we may remember, abandoned his son as well (to a strange world without a remaining parent to look after him) but that's okay!

Hook might yet be a rogue good guy, but he's far from that right now.

[kattahj]

Yup, that's pretty much the reasoning right there.

Hook has shifted allegiance at least four times in six episodes (and that's counting the one he wasn't in), which suggests that if the good guys can give him what he wants, he's not above playing for their team for a little while, but it doesn't mean anything for the future.

[nell65]

I think part of the problem is that Hook is by far the prettiest man on the show after David/Charming and people on the whole don't want to mess with David/Snow... though I have read some stories trying to dirty him up a bit, usually with Regina of all people....shrug. But, anyway, pairing him with Emma is -- so far --- not something anyone seems to want to do. Which is really fine with me. lol

[kattahj]

I think Graham was pretty hot. Trouble with him was, we only got character development for him the ep he died, which is really a waste. I mean, it's not enough for someone to just stand around and be pretty.

And Hook is ridiculously easy on the eyes, but a lot of that is character. I mean, I've seen Colin in The Rite, and he's cute there, but it's not the kind of cute that really stands out. So I think the fangirls would be better off keeping him in character, but they evidently disagree.

Come to think of it, several of them seem to want to pair Hook's exterior with his Rite persona, which doesn't really work at all. I've even seen one fic that has him as a priest. BECAUSE THAT WORKS SO WELL.

[nell65]

A priest? What? That must be wild. (Didn't see that show...)

It has to be the pirate gear. Buckling the swash and all that. It would make even poor Archie sexy (er?).

Graham might have done, had he lasted past learning why he was a morose lump in Storybrooke...which is why there are several return from death fics at AO3 I'm sure! But. Well. Dead.

[kattahj]

It's a movie, and not a particularly good one, but it was very interesting to see how different Colin could be in another role. Trailer here.

It would make even poor Archie sexy (er?).

Aw, poor Archie. I have seen Archie/Marco fic, that made me happy. :-)