And assuming the former, doesn't that mean that if Sarah stops Judgment Day she destroys John along with the future he's living in?
Well... given that, as you said, the John Connor that we've always known is the son of Kyle Reese, who was sent from the future to save Sarah Connor's life, preventing Judgment Day has always had the potential to erase John from existence. So I don't think anything has really gotten worse from the fact that he's in the future in person now
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Well... given that, as you said, the John Connor that we've always known is the son of Kyle Reese, who was sent from the future to save Sarah Connor's life, preventing Judgment Day has always had the potential to erase John from existence. So I don't think anything has really gotten worse from the fact that he's in the future in person now.Meh. I've come down on the side that that isn't something they have to worry about; once John exists, he continues to exist, even if looked at from a fifth dimension it would seem that Kyle appeared out of nowhere to sire him. That's done. ...though... oh, God, now I feel confused again
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I think that evidence suggests they're using the divergent path theory of time travel. With every major decision, there's a split. Jessie's future had diverged from Derek's -- not a lot but enough to be a different future. Sarah can wipe out futures that are yet to form but she can't wipe out the future that John's in because that is, it's set -- going back down that particular time stream, there's a Sarah that didn't stop Judgement Day. Other Sarahs may succeed, other Johns may die but not that one because we've seen it. He's the Schrodinger's cat of time travel.
If they get another season, I suspect John's plot will involve finding the wayback machine and maybe suggesting that after he leaves this should be a future where they blow the damned thing up.
But I'll roll with it, with the assumption that unless he pops up within about fifteen minutes completely unharmed, she is never going to forgive herself.
I wonder (in the sense of trying to fanwank it) whether Sarah simply couldn't face the possibility of a post-Judgment Day world. She's been trying to stop it for sixteen years, and moving into that future would have meant admitting defeat, and living in her worst nightmare.
That's the one thought I haven't seen before...faced with going into that future, Sarah just balked. Which is, actually, as an irrational explanation, the only one I can swallow -- none of the rational ones fit what we know of the character.
Yeah, that's plausible. I mean, I don't think she'd say to herself "well, there goes John, but I am too afraid to cope with the future so I won't go with him," but I can imagine her making a snap judgment that turns out to have been heavily informed by an unwillingness to go there.
Smaller dogs might be more effective ratters, and thus a good food-provider. Then again, larger dogs are better eating when times are lean. I don't suppose they need dogs for travoises, and there don't seem to be any sheep to herd (although if there were!!), so yes, possibly, the German Shepherdness of the dogs is potentially an impractical detail.
Unless the leader of the resistance is a purebred rescue group??
1) Small dogs are yappy and give away your position unless well trained.
2) Small dogs aren't so useful against other, desperate humans.
3) As far as we know, in the "future" he's in, they may not even know about human-shaped cyborg killers yet. He's not yet in the future Kyle came back from. Dogs could just well be guard dogs.
4) Big dogs can scavenge just as well as little ones. Better, in fact. Wolves eat rodents all the time.
5) The well trained paramilitary dogs you've going to free and train are going to be shephards. Dobermans go feral too fast.
Aren't Dobermans the breed riddled with narcolepsy? Entertainment for everybody!!
I tend to suspect that there will be no purebred anythings in the apocalyptic future, since wild doggy outbreeding appears to be side effect #1 of your average civic disaster. But the working dog genes will definitely turn up more useful than most of the other types, unless somewhere there's a desperate need for that weird kind of dog that looks like a rag rug.
I appreciate your consideration of the details of dog-breed identification in the midst of your capslock. At some future date, I hope to compare sketched diagrams of time-travel models with nice pointy arrows.
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Well... given that, as you said, the John Connor that we've always known is the son of Kyle Reese, who was sent from the future to save Sarah Connor's life, preventing Judgment Day has always had the potential to erase John from existence. So I don't think anything has really gotten worse from the fact that he's in the future in person now ( ... )
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If they get another season, I suspect John's plot will involve finding the wayback machine and maybe suggesting that after he leaves this should be a future where they blow the damned thing up.
Time travel gives me migraines...
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Theoretically, they were supposed to have destroyed it after Kyle went through, but I guess not :)
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So wherever John is, that's real? He's... more real than the rest of the universe?
I find that awesome yet confusing. Definitely there should be blowing up in the time machine's future.
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I wonder (in the sense of trying to fanwank it) whether Sarah simply couldn't face the possibility of a post-Judgment Day world. She's been trying to stop it for sixteen years, and moving into that future would have meant admitting defeat, and living in her worst nightmare.
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Unless the leader of the resistance is a purebred rescue group??
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2) Small dogs aren't so useful against other, desperate humans.
3) As far as we know, in the "future" he's in, they may not even know about human-shaped cyborg killers yet. He's not yet in the future Kyle came back from. Dogs could just well be guard dogs.
4) Big dogs can scavenge just as well as little ones. Better, in fact. Wolves eat rodents all the time.
5) The well trained paramilitary dogs you've going to free and train are going to be shephards. Dobermans go feral too fast.
6) I HAVE NOTHING BUT CAPSLOCK.
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I tend to suspect that there will be no purebred anythings in the apocalyptic future, since wild doggy outbreeding appears to be side effect #1 of your average civic disaster. But the working dog genes will definitely turn up more useful than most of the other types, unless somewhere there's a desperate need for that weird kind of dog that looks like a rag rug.
I appreciate your consideration of the details of dog-breed identification in the midst of your capslock. At some future date, I hope to compare sketched diagrams of time-travel models with nice pointy arrows.
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SCRUFFY RESISTANCE FIGHTER NUMBER ONE: "I don't know. The conformation isn't very good. I mean, look at the head!"
SCRUFFY RESISTANCE FIGHTER NUMBER TWO: "But see, my point is, look how much meatier the thighs are. Um, not that I plan to do anything with them..."
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