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Mar 22, 2009 06:45

Vatican clarifies remarks on abortion: "The Catholic church accepts abortion when the death of the foetus is not intentional, but is the result of care provided to the mother". Which means if she needs an abortion because the pregnancy will wreck her health or kill her - for example, if she's only nine years old - she's fucked ( Read more... )

reproductive freedom, religion, sex education

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qthewetsprocket March 21 2009, 20:09:07 UTC
stuff like this makes me wonder just how many world religions are actually psychologically based on men being jealous that they can't bear children, and hating women because they can.

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ikhet_sekhmet March 21 2009, 20:19:21 UTC
Frankly, I wonder how much of it reflects a fanboy mentality of making up rules and then elaborating them ad infinitum regardless of proportion, logic, common sense, effectiveness, or anything to do with the real world at all. 'Cos the abortion stuff is at least internally consistent, but it's inconsistent with the policies on contraception and sex ed.

Basically, we need to get the Pope pregnant.

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qthewetsprocket March 21 2009, 20:39:07 UTC
i think if all world religions had something like the hippocratic oath in their basic tenents, the world would be a much better place. unfortunately, the vatican's 'value of suffering' doctrine allows them to wave away any suffering caused by their own dogmas (and there has been a LOT) as an opportunity for the sufferers to 'grow spiritually' or 'offer it up'.

personally, i hope that just before he gets ushered into hell, the pope gets to meet all the little babies who were born with aids and led very short lives full of suffering and misery because he told their parents they couldn't use condoms. although i think i like your idea even better...

Basically, we need to get the Pope pregnant.

AMEN.

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lordalius March 21 2009, 21:15:20 UTC
It may be remarkably straightforward: when it gets down to it, I think, for the church, SEX = BAD.

The sole purpose of sex, via Christian doctrine, is procreation. (Preferably procreation that results in as many more Christians as possible, of course.) The fact that there's some pleasure to be had in the act is secondary, and based on Christian morality, also bad. ("Impure" thoughts, "unnatural" sexual urges, etc.)

Therefore, anything that could make sex more enjoyable, or eliminate the chances at procreation no matter what the consequences, is also bad.

I have a feeling that, if the church could figure out how to do it and still make little Christian babies, they would encourage abstinence after the marriage vows as well...

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iblis_kukl March 22 2009, 08:11:27 UTC
Pope Urges Angolans to Convert; Stampede Kills 2

(Probably just wanted him to quit dragging his ass on pardoning Copernicus for heresy.)

eliazar

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