I find voice to be a hassle as I sometimes get distracted when on second life (cat starts to cough up a hairball for example) and with text I can come back to it after my investigation and subsequent cleanup is completed. I am always asking people to repeat themselves b/c I missed what they said. I don't mind listening or using voice but I prefer text. I listen to voice but respond in text... which aggravates people. I do make it a point to include non voicers in the conversation if they are present too (because it's rude to not include them)
Either way, loved your post, agree with it all. Thanks for saying it!!! -kesseret steeplechase
Yes, she types, I agree
anonymous
July 8 2008, 20:44:12 UTC
I don't use voice for the same reasons you state, Kate. And I can't imagine what a live music event would sound like with everyone talking and shouting and making sounds all at once. Probably wouldn't be able to hear the performer!
And really, if Mr Kapor doesn't like text, why is he even involved in SL? Does he think we will all march right behind him? HA!
Re: Yes, she types, I agreekateamdahlJuly 9 2008, 01:53:20 UTC
Well, of course there are the people who *do* use voice...actually, I'd be interested to read something from some of them about their experience. Do they hang out in places where voice is the main thing used? What's their sense of how common voice use is? And so on ...
So which is the newer, more innovative technology? Sure, writing's been around for 4,700 years, and that's pretty old. But how long has speech been around? Tens of thousands of years longer, that's how long. The spoken word, for all its richness and art, is the 1.0 technology, and writing is language 2.0. How soon are we going to give up on the rich feature set of writing and go back to using its single-threaded, slow-processing ancestor?
I love you.
Hamlet, bless his heart, did leave quite a bit out when he was summarizing the talk. I watched the whole thing from beginning to end and Mr. Kapor did concede that "voice is not a panacea and there are still many applications in which it is actually a drawback".
An imperfect transcript is here, if you'd prefer to read for yourself.
Kate, first, thanks for coming to the Thirsty Tiger party and the mention in TWGB!
I love SL text chat. Seriously, where in RL can you tell a friend you were talking to three other people at the same time and the person won't be the slightest bit offended? It's expected, at least in group social situations, right?
I agree voice is useless in those social settings that define SL. The only time I've found voice useful is when you have a small group of friends who know each other well, or in business environments with a few people, sort of as a substitute for a telephone conference call. But just checking out a new hot spot and meeting new people? No way - give me a keyboard,
Re: Very well put!kateamdahlJuly 10 2008, 14:51:11 UTC
Dale, I enjoyed your post, and you made two very good points that I missed completely, namely the interference between talking and music (the reason I never like to go hear live music on any kind of first date in First Life) and the fact that in voice conversations, the advantage goes to the loud and pushy.
Oh, but I thought of one more thing in favor of voice, too: singing. I love singing, and I'd love to be able to sing with friends in Second Life and hear them sing. Oh well! Not going to happen.
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I don't mind listening or using voice but I prefer text. I listen to voice but respond in text... which aggravates people. I do make it a point to include non voicers in the conversation if they are present too (because it's rude to not include them)
Either way, loved your post, agree with it all. Thanks for saying it!!!
-kesseret steeplechase
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And really, if Mr Kapor doesn't like text, why is he even involved in SL? Does he think we will all march right behind him? HA!
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I love you.
Hamlet, bless his heart, did leave quite a bit out when he was summarizing the talk. I watched the whole thing from beginning to end and Mr. Kapor did concede that "voice is not a panacea and there are still many applications in which it is actually a drawback".
An imperfect transcript is here, if you'd prefer to read for yourself.
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I love SL text chat. Seriously, where in RL can you tell a friend you were talking to three other people at the same time and the person won't be the slightest bit offended? It's expected, at least in group social situations, right?
I agree voice is useless in those social settings that define SL. The only time I've found voice useful is when you have a small group of friends who know each other well, or in business environments with a few people, sort of as a substitute for a telephone conference call. But just checking out a new hot spot and meeting new people? No way - give me a keyboard,
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My reasons for not using voice (and some nice reader comments):
http://daleinnis.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/why-i-dont-use-voice-in-sl/
Dale Innis
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Oh, but I thought of one more thing in favor of voice, too: singing. I love singing, and I'd love to be able to sing with friends in Second Life and hear them sing. Oh well! Not going to happen.
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