A random HP thought

Jul 17, 2005 10:29


This is appallingly spoilery; be warned.

minor thought on a major spoiler )

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hhw July 17 2005, 16:31:18 UTC
yahtzee63's theory of Harry the Horcrux:Voldemort went to Godric's Hollow to kill baby Harry. James fought him -- in vain, but apparently well. Voldemort, realizing this to be a serious battle, used James' murder to cast the Horcrux spell, fixing his attention on some relic of Godric Gryffindor that was in the house. (Remember how JKR once said the name of Godric's Hollow was very significant?) He did this at the same time Lily was casting the protective charm on Harry. The protective charm did the one thing that would ensure Voldemort could not kill Harry: it made Harry the Horcrux instead. Harry could no more die than Voldemort, once Voldemort's soul was partly contained in him (as well as in six other beings/objects). Therefore the Avada Kedavra failed. The spell Voldemort cast scarred Harry and refracted back onto Voldemort himself (due to the soul transfer), which is what turned him into the Evil Gray Mr. Bill-like Thing of Books 1-4.

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kate_nepveu July 17 2005, 18:53:14 UTC
Hmm. Still requires that V. either not recognize H. as a Horcrux [*] when they come face-to-face, or have some way to recapture the bit of soul once H. is dead (which latter I really doubt), but interesting, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

[*] Is it just me that finds that word impossible to type?

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reesei July 17 2005, 19:20:16 UTC
I have to wonder how this ties in to Dementors, who can suck the soul out of someone's body.

Can the Dementors return the bit of Voldemort-soul to him if they take it from Harry?

One possibility for Godric's Hollow is that Voldemort just didn't realize what would happen if he put all of his soul into Horcruci - after all, no one has ever made more than one before. He overdid it, and ended up dead.

To become rebodied, he had to take something from Nagini in the unicorn-blood and snake-venom potion; part of his soul, maybe?

Just throwing things out there.

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kate_nepveu July 18 2005, 14:10:07 UTC
(I am suddenly flashing, most disconcertingly, on a Bujold novel. Nevermind.)

I wouldn't like to be the one to convince a Dementor to give up a piece of soul that it's got, but--or, wait, could a Dementor go to Kiss Harry & get interrupted and only get the piece of V's soul?

. . . probably not. The world is a better place for my realizing that I can't plot.

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polkais4lovers August 13 2006, 01:57:48 UTC
Reading all the previous comments, I think they bring up interesting points. First, I ask this: do we know that Voldemort used Adava Kedavra on Harry? Also, do we know that the Adava Kedavra spell is used to create a horcrux? I'm not sure if it was ever specified, just that the act of killing mangles one's soul to enable the capture of it in an outside object. I think the brevity of Slughorn's conversation with TR was completely intentional so we would hit this junction as to whether or not a horcrux could be created unintentionally. My gut reaction is yes, it could be, because I think to kill with the intention to then make a horcrux requires a specific spell. There have been other wizard murderers, why haven't they made horcruxes as well if it jut required the desire to remain immortal ( ... )

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kate_nepveu August 13 2006, 02:01:54 UTC
False!Moody says Harry is the only person known to survive AK.

We don't know that AK is used to create a horcrux.

since JK had divorced, I think it would be like her to implement that in the wizarding world, marriages or other magical contracts were inalienable on penalty of death

You're assuming that she didn't want to be divorced! I know some divorcees who'd want anything *but* marriages being indissolvable!

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kate_nepveu August 13 2006, 02:03:22 UTC
RE: Harry & AK: the narration says the same in book four, and probably other places.

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