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Aug 23, 2010 11:16

I realize I'm mostly preaching to the choir in my little corner of the Internet here, but thefreak's posting last night about those teabaggers freaking out about the "Ground Zero mosque" got me thinking. I wonder if anyone has asked them if they would be opposed to a Shinto shrine in Honolulu?  Because there's actually a couple there already. Only a few ( Read more... )

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mycroftca August 23 2010, 20:50:45 UTC
Actually, I've seen/heard that argument several times, and I think that it illustrates the point that there are certain people or groups who are "out to get" Islam. As it was, the Shinto shires, IIRC, came in after we'd nuked the Japanese, so we could be magnanimous. So far, we've yet to kill Osama bin Laden, so we haven't won. Yet.

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erich_schneider August 23 2010, 21:01:18 UTC
The web site for the shrine Karen linked to, the Hawaii Kotohira Jinsha - Hawaii Dazaifu Tenmangu, says that it was established in 1920.

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mycroftca August 23 2010, 21:44:42 UTC
I bow to your superior Internet-fu, Erich. I was basing it on hearsay rather than research. I appreciate the information.

Of course, I've heard that there's already a mosque within four blocks of Ground Zero, so it grandfather's in, just like the Shinto shrine...

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thefreak August 24 2010, 08:23:40 UTC
Yep,, and it's been there since before the WTC...

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wildkarrde August 24 2010, 02:40:51 UTC
Just read this from Seth MacFarlane this morning: "I support the right of the Jedi to build a temple, but does it have to be 2 blocks from the ruins of the Death Star?"

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brisrealm August 24 2010, 03:55:07 UTC
my okie friend posted the whole "travesty! mosque! ground zero! ZOMG repost if you agree!" and i asked if she was implying all muslims were terrorists. a mutual friend popped up defending the post. another mutual friend got my back and said "calling all muslims terrorists is like calling all christians members of the ku klux klan." prior poster got defensive saying he never said all were bad. i nipped it in the bud and killed it dead by saying "let's put it another way. disputing a mosque at ground zero is like saying there should be no church at the murrah site b/c mcveigh called himself a christian."

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down8 August 28 2010, 18:03:23 UTC
The main difference in those three examples is this:
the Japanese (country) attacked the US (country) as an act of war;
the Battle of Bunker Hill happened during a war for independence (that was more about taxes than religion) between 2 countries;
9/11 was an attach in the name of religionThere are plenty of reprehensible things done in the name of Christianity (like those DBs who protest soldier funerals), too - but nothing (in recent history) comparable to the WTC attacks ( ... )

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