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[Text] [Week 20, Day 4]

Mar 17, 2011 19:04

Can someone tell me what a 'God' is?

Do they have a purpose? Or can it be that they really just take things away?

[The person he would have asked has seemingly disappeared with so many of the others]

elfangor, yu kanda, doug, ~amane misa, matt, yoite, lenalee lee, ~edward elric, lavi, umino iruka

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[text] smiling_umino March 18 2011, 02:43:02 UTC

A god; a superhuman being or spirit worshiped as having power over nature of human fortunes; a deity: responsible for starting a belief and worship amongst a people. These belief systems are made to be of supreme importance, and cataloged - usually - to better the lives of those who practice it.

Sometimes - as far as the context of religion and a god goes - they can give you things to teach you a lesson, with the intention to probably better yourself as an individual. But just like how they can give you something - fortune, good luck, happiness, love - they can easily take it away as well. Whether that is for harm or good, here, in Kannagara, I am not sure. Personally? I think it does more harm than good.

[text] erase_to_forget March 18 2011, 18:41:18 UTC

So it is only power that gives their authority?

[text] smiling_umino March 18 2011, 18:43:43 UTC

Looking around us? I would say so, yes.

Re: [text] erase_to_forget March 18 2011, 18:56:52 UTC

are there beings more powerful than gods?

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[video | private] mightstealyrcar March 18 2011, 05:53:10 UTC

I don't believe in god, or the gods, or whatever. I think humans created them 'cause they need to think there's something more than them.

[Matt's smoking, and flips his cigarette around between his fingers, as he does when he's thinking.]

The ones here just do shit 'cause they can, far as I can tell. You okay, Yoite?

[video | private] erase_to_forget March 18 2011, 18:45:59 UTC

I am alright, Matt-san.[Everything is changing. Nothing to hold onto in this place. Nothing to count on]...just confused

So...you are saying that gods are fictional then?

[video | private] mightstealyrcar March 19 2011, 02:10:49 UTC

I think they are.

I mean, there really are beings here who call themselves gods, but I don't think they're divine or anything. I think they're more like... people with powers, who don't really get humans.

Re: [video | private] erase_to_forget March 19 2011, 08:13:38 UTC

'get' ? [confused] do you mean 'own'?

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[ text ] /couldn't resist equivalentfaith March 18 2011, 06:59:49 UTC

There's no such thing as a god. It's just something people make up to excuse their actions, or to justify bad shit that happens in their lives. Or hope for things to get better without actually trying.

...The 'gods' here are just assholes drunk on power, just like the human kind but with supernatural shit to back them up.

Re: [ text ] /couldn't resist erase_to_forget March 18 2011, 18:46:37 UTC

So they are an illusion then. Like justice.

[ text ] equivalentfaith March 18 2011, 19:44:27 UTC

[There's a...slight pause before the answer comes. Ed wouldn't go as far as to say justice is an illusion, but he's seen enough to know it's different for different people.]

Well justice is...different, in some ways. It exists, but it doesn't mean the same thing to everyone.

[He debates a little before continuing with the message.]

Say there's a man, just living his life as normal, and then there's a war. But a one-sided one where his country is basically obliterated and most of the people in it are killed.

But then that same man starts killing people in the military that attacked his country. Some would say that's justice, right? Revenge?

But some of the people he's dragging into it had nothing to do with that war and are dying for nothing but their allegiance to an institution he has good reason to hate.

So it can be complicated.

Re: [ text ] erase_to_forget March 21 2011, 10:52:27 UTC

[This answer is quieting. And more than a bit unsettling to someone who for so long lived their life as a gun. Killing when the right person pulled the trigger, and always far enough away so the blood wouldn't seep to his skin. The shooter...the one pulling the strings on a person who had been little more than a hollow jaded marionette...was the one who could live with the guilt. Yoite could live ignorant of anything that makes human life valuable.

And only now is he starting to learn. Picking up pieces here and there where some kind being patient enough to put up with his glaring failures as a human being are willing to passed down to him some wisdom or experience.

Then most of all he learns from those who suffer with him...those who suffer for him despite all his best efforts...and most of all those who suffer because of him.

But still...there is the memory of being empty.]

I have known the life of a weapon...killing the innocent for neither hate nor vengeance...and I cannot believe in the existence of justice.

[Video] infiniillusion March 18 2011, 09:46:10 UTC

[Cursed be the day when Kanda will actually bother with making a text message.]

[So here, have his completely blank expression on the screen, followed by just as blank and dry tone of voice, as if everything he says is a fact confirmed eons ago.]

A 'god' is an excuse for humans to mangle lives.

[And he'll be ending the feed because he doesn't really care what you think. This is the truth.]

[Video] erase_to_forget March 18 2011, 18:50:01 UTC

[Have an equally blank expression in return, as well as a voice so empty one might swear it was automated]

Do you speak from experience?

[Video] infiniillusion March 18 2011, 21:24:00 UTC

[Kanda stares at the video for a few moments. So that guy wants to discuss it, after all. Oh well. He'll turn the video back on and match the face along with the expression. Let's have a little contest and see how blank can you go.]

You could say that.

[He's quite sure Lenalee would say the same, really. If she hadn't grown up in the Order from being very young and therefore effectively brainwashed into believing divine beings were good or something.]

Re: [Video] erase_to_forget March 19 2011, 08:25:58 UTC

So you have used god as an excuse before?

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[Private Video] nec_metu March 18 2011, 16:24:36 UTC

God is something that creates life.

[It's a strange question to ask. But she can understand why, with all of the disappearances lately. Yoite was close to Allen too, wasn't he?]

The things that bring people here are not gods. They take from what others have already made, playing with things that don't belong to them. They are only people with too much power.

[Lenalee takes a breath, trying to think of the best way to put it. She will not glorify her God. Not after so many years spent hating Him, not when His actions have always been unfair-- distant and uncaring for what they wanted.]

God does not involve Himself directly with humans. He is... bigger than that. If God cares about anything, it's the sum of many, not individuals. I don't think that God only takes. But God acts regardless of what people want.

[She looks back to the camera, realizing that her gaze had drifted as she searched for words.]

I don't know if that's what you were looking for or not, but it's what I believe.

[Private Video] erase_to_forget March 18 2011, 18:54:09 UTC

I had no specific intent for what I was seeking. This is a new subject to me.

[His eyes stare unfaltering at the screen, though really they seem not to be looking at anything at all]

Perhaps a definition. But it appears no one will agree to one single identity of 'god.'

[Private Video] nec_metu March 18 2011, 20:33:05 UTC

I'm sure that everyone has their own definition.

[Their own slightly differing Christian definitions.]

It's impossible for everyone to think of something the same way, especially when that thing can't be seen.

Re: [Private Video] erase_to_forget March 19 2011, 08:16:39 UTC

No one can see air but we all share a common definition of it and share an acceptance of its existence....why does 'god' not work the same way?

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