I don't think one's personality is just of a fleeting moment, it's a mix of experiences which were caused by certain moments in our life. These moments are not unique to one person, but they are common to everyone, the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak, but we differ on how we percieve them on how we come to see them at the end, is the death of this person a kind of injustice by the world? or is it the turning point which will make me stronger
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Absoluteness (Part I)kalikronosMarch 21 2008, 04:27:39 UTC
I would first like to thank you for sharing your thoughts, I highly appreciate a good discussion. I hope that we can both refine our thoughts to a point where there will be a sort of understanding of all that has and will have been said.
I apologize for the long reply! I'll have to make two posts...
I don't think one's personality is just of a fleeting moment, it's a mix of experiences which were caused by certain moments in our life. These moments are not unique to one person, but they are common to everyone, the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak, but we differ on how we perceive them on how we come to see them at the end, is the death of this person a kind of injustice by the world? or is it the turning point which will make me stronger. That is all indeed quite true, perception is necessary to all experiences
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Absoluteness (Part II)kalikronosMarch 21 2008, 04:29:51 UTC
Ignorance is who we are and what would make us better when it comes to realization. A choice of knowledge is not an eeasy one, but a choice of wisdom a different one, few would know the difference, but fewer would take the later. Ignorance can be sometimes a bless, but our hell at others.
Ignorance is indeed both the biggest and the best obstacle we can face in a lifetime. Part of your paragraph I would like to elaborate on... Although I understand the context in which you use the term 'wisdom', I think that it would be pessimistic to say that wisdom is a choice that few individuals make. People may definitely struggle to make wise choices (or to actually act with wisdom!); but humans still spend much energy trying to act and react in such a way that they will lead a happy existence. I have personally come to believe with the years that wisdom is very closely linked to happiness. People who seek comfort and stagnation (as opposed to veritable joy or happiness) may think they are wise... but when you dig deeper, you realize that
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Even though our body is a limitation and a boundary to our soul, but one should keep in mind, that this body is not as weak as someone may think, and one's mind have total control above it. That is to say that if on's body sent information that it's hungry, the brain can forcefully make it hold and it would but not forever. Besides these limitation is what make think of ourselves even more
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I forgot to mention, that I have no prolem with late or long responses, this is not my first lengthy discussion and not the last, so I am quite used to the situation and understand it too.
Even though our body is a limitation and a boundary to our soul, but one should keep in mind, that this body is not as weak as someone may think, and one's mind have total control above it. That is to say that if on's body sent information that it's hungry, the brain can forcefully make it hold and it would but not forever. Besides these limitation is what make think of ourselves even more.
There's a few ways to interpret 'strength' based on this one example! I guess the idea is to appreciate each aspect of our human constitution (spirit, mind, emotions and body) for what it can do. Should the body be considered "strong" because it can withstand (with or without pain) the conditions imposed by the mind? Is it not the purpose of the body to be tamed so that one can bask in near-total spiritual awareness? I would agree that the body can indeed be a very flexible tool, and that its main purpose is to a receptacle and an interpreter of external stimuli - sources of inspiration and experiences which also lead to spiritual growth
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I guess the idea is to appreciate each aspect of our human constitution (spirit, mind, emotions and body) for what it can do. You see a human constitues four things, instead of the common view that they are three, since they see one's emotions are in his soul, so I would like to know what shaped this idea of yours.
"Should the body be considered "strong" because it can withstand (with or without pain) the conditions imposed by the mind? Is it not the purpose of the body to be tamed so that one can bask in near-total spiritual awareness?" I think yes a body should be considered strong because of that, since we believe that our mind and soul have great strength, it's only rational to see what carries this strength is also strong.
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I apologize for the long reply! I'll have to make two posts...
I don't think one's personality is just of a fleeting moment, it's a mix of experiences which were caused by certain moments in our life. These moments are not unique to one person, but they are common to everyone, the rich and the poor, the strong and the weak, but we differ on how we perceive them on how we come to see them at the end, is the death of this person a kind of injustice by the world? or is it the turning point which will make me stronger.
That is all indeed quite true, perception is necessary to all experiences ( ... )
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Ignorance is who we are and what would make us better when it comes to realization. A choice of knowledge is not an eeasy one, but a choice of wisdom a different one, few would know the difference, but fewer would take the later. Ignorance can be sometimes a bless, but our hell at others.
Ignorance is indeed both the biggest and the best obstacle we can face in a lifetime. Part of your paragraph I would like to elaborate on...
Although I understand the context in which you use the term 'wisdom', I think that it would be pessimistic to say that wisdom is a choice that few individuals make. People may definitely struggle to make wise choices (or to actually act with wisdom!); but humans still spend much energy trying to act and react in such a way that they will lead a happy existence.
I have personally come to believe with the years that wisdom is very closely linked to happiness. People who seek comfort and stagnation (as opposed to veritable joy or happiness) may think they are wise... but when you dig deeper, you realize that ( ... )
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Even though our body is a limitation and a boundary to our soul, but one should keep in mind, that this body is not as weak as someone may think, and one's mind have total control above it. That is to say that if on's body sent information that it's hungry, the brain can forcefully make it hold and it would but not forever. Besides these limitation is what make think of ourselves even more.
There's a few ways to interpret 'strength' based on this one example!
I guess the idea is to appreciate each aspect of our human constitution (spirit, mind, emotions and body) for what it can do.
Should the body be considered "strong" because it can withstand (with or without pain) the conditions imposed by the mind? Is it not the purpose of the body to be tamed so that one can bask in near-total spiritual awareness?
I would agree that the body can indeed be a very flexible tool, and that its main purpose is to a receptacle and an interpreter of external stimuli - sources of inspiration and experiences which also lead to spiritual growth ( ... )
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You see a human constitues four things, instead of the common view that they are three, since they see one's emotions are in his soul, so I would like to know what shaped this idea of yours.
"Should the body be considered "strong" because it can withstand (with or without pain) the conditions imposed by the mind? Is it not the purpose of the body to be tamed so that one can bask in near-total spiritual awareness?"
I think yes a body should be considered strong because of that, since we believe that our mind and soul have great strength, it's only rational to see what carries this strength is also strong.
And thank you for the information you gave me.
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