DW/TW Fic: There Are Some Men Who Should Have Mountains to Bear Their Names to Time (Part 3)

[kalichan]

Title: There Are Some Men Who Should Have Mountains To Bear Their Names To Time
Pairing/Characters: Jack/Ianto, Ten, +TW team, +sundry members of DW Cast
Authors: rm & kalichan
Rating/Warning: NC-17, slash, plot, religion (!!), and porn.
Summary: Some people say goodbye and others say hello.
Wordcount: ~32,000 words posted in five parts
Authors' Notes: This

Comments

[mellacita]

The priests of Boe wear pinstriped suits. *dies*

Actually I pretty much am like Jack, reading this. Dying, coming back for more, dying, coming back for more.

You guys are so freaking clever, it makes me embarassed to even show my face in fandom. Er. That's a compliment, btw.

[rm]

Heheheeheh. Thank you. Aside from the timey-wimey, we are full of odd little jokes; the suits were one.

[kalichan]

*laughs* Like Doctor Who, we are on a limited costume budget! Rock quarries and reused suits all the way!

Yeah, we had a great time with the suits! Thanks for laughing with us, and also this:

Actually I pretty much am like Jack, reading this. Dying, coming back for more, dying, coming back for more.

Which is maybe the best comment sentence ever.

Thank you so much!

[kahtyasofia]

I love Team Torchwood telling Jack to get control of himself!

Oh, and Ianto leaning on the jar and crying! I knew you were going to make me cry and that was the bit that did it.

And Jack sort of thinking to himself that he cares a little more for Ianto than he realized but the world could still be ending cause the Doctor doesn't just stop by for tea!

And Boe encouraging love and affection with his priests/esses!

You guys have the most fantastic vocabulary! I feel as though I'm actually reading at an adult reading level! Love it!

[rm]

And continued thanks....

Tears: there will be more. Ianto's, if not yours.

I think, I'm not sure where Kali is on this, that Jack knows how much he feels for Ianto, but maybe not how scared he is of losing him -- not just because of romance, but because Jack's used to him just being there and relies on him, and is someone Jack doesn't want to let down the way he probably feels he let down Owen and Tosh and the way he knows he's hurt Ianto in the past by just not noticing things.

You have no idea the level of self-restraint we had to engage in with the Boe thing. There were so many opportunities to do something insane. And we had to just keep stopping ourselves in a place where it's speculative for Ianto and the reader.

Well, she's getting a PhD and I studied Latin (and am sort of just an asshole). But we like words a lot. And we are glad when other people like us liking words, because some people find it off-putting!

[kahtyasofia]

Interesting take on Jack and his emotions. I agree he's hurt Ianto in the past by not noticing small things. I think I've always just assumed that Jack is so busy simply...being...that he just doesn't ever stop and take stock of how he feels about Ianto.

I told someone else recently that Jack understands he's going to loose Ianto some day and that scares him but he's come to realize he's got too long to live to simply stop feeling and becoming attached. A lot of fic writers portray Jack and trying to avoid getting attached to anyone because he'll loose them. I believe Jack is heroic enough to become attached IN SPITE of all that. Perhaps only since the Year That Wasn't, but true all the same.

Oh, and I do believe that Ianto has replaced the Doctor in Jack's life as the person he strives to be a better man for.

[rm]

And I don't think it's any less affection for the Doctor, just maybe an understanding that the Doctor doesn't need that from him; wants it for him, maybe, but that's different.

I don't think Jack is scared of attachment. I think he can't help it. It's those periods between, I think, where he feels like he's dying and as if that's not a good thing.

[darthhellokitty]

"Sure. Maybe it would help if you started acting more like our Captain and less like a fifteen year old emo girl!"

I have to tell you the circumstances under which I've been reading this: in my parents' house, on the sofa, with four nephews and a niece all between 12 and 15, playing noisy games and accusing one another of being "an emo". I'm afraid I had to retreat to the quiet guest room...

I love this. Ianto's finally just dealing as best he can with the Face of Boe, and who he is, and he likes him. Telling him stories, and honestly I'm imagining your stories as being what he tells!

Your Boe is such a love, and he's turning into my canon Boe. Very alien, and very Jack.

And Jack is going crazy and taking the rest of the team with him! I love it! And having an utterly awful dinner with Rhys and Gwen! He does depend on Ianto so very much.

DYING TO KNOW WHAT THE SEED IS. DYYYYYING.

[rm]

Thank you!

*jumps up and down*

I'm so excited this story is working the way we intended.

We do imagines Ianto's stories as being ours, and we've talked about, for curiosity's sake, writing out at least one of them as Ianto would tell it to the Face. It won't be part of the arc, but might be of interest once this is all over.

The emo thing is particularly funny in light of Ravi's tantrum at Jack. (Oh, hey, you quoted it! The gmail message didn't show that. Hah!)

[darthhellokitty]

Oh, this is SO working. Considering I'm reading it over several days, amid chaos, I'm loving this.

[kalichan]

Your comments are unbelievably eloquent, so thank you.

Jack impatient yet with so much time; Ianto so patient even though he could be snuffed out in a moment.

Ahh, that sums them up so well. Thank you! It's another one of those dichotomies that's so fascinating. With Doctor Who, I am often fascinated by the message: everything has its time, and everything ends. And yet Death is the Doctor's most constant companion, but also his enemy. It's a juxtaposition that I sort of find endlessly intriguing.

even though he still has essence of Jack

*laughs* yes! That, exactly. I think rm had the same response as you to the revelations re: Face of Boe; I was just blown away by it all at first. Now we both just find it intensely perfect, but we are sick puppies and are, as she says somewhere later, very heavily into the beauty of sadness and loss. And also, it's sort of grotesquely funny, and yeah. It still just enraptures me. The second we realized that we were writing a series, I was like, somehow, we have to have Ianto meet the Face of Boe.

[springandsummer]

Oh god, I started cracking up when Jack goes, "I don't even know what that means," after being called a fifteen year old emo girl *L*

And there's something awfully sad about Ianto telling stories to the Face of Boe :/

PS - You have an unexpected line break in "this was out of neither
negligence or discretion" :)

[kalichan]

Thank you! We had a little giggle fit over that one too. I'm sure Jack tries to stay current with slang, but he's not always very good at stuff, is he? Poor Jack.

Thanks for the catch as well, have fixed! Hope you enjoy the rest.