Dept. of Do I Need A New Fandom?

[kaffy_r]

So. The Avengers.

Tomorrow is my first day back from vacation, and I know the week is going to be a bear (not as much of a bear as it would have been, had certain folk at work gone above and beyond to make sure I get paid this Friday despite forgetting to put in my time card when I got back from Canada, which is another story). I plan to celebrate

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[a_phoenixdragon]

*Drive-by hugs*

[kaffy_r]

Thanks, my dear; it's been rather a drive-by day, so the hugs fit right in!

[apostle_of_eris]

It's still aggravating that I could walk over and knock on your window faster than you'll get this, but so it goes.
I don't go to a lot of comic book movies, so I don't have much basis for comparison, but I was impressed at how many Marvel tropes were incorporated. From smart-ass dialog through neurosis driven plotting to visual angles, I would not have been at all surprised to see Stan Lee off in some corner like Hitchcock. (Actually I would have been surprised, because I don't know if I know what he looks like.)

So does Sunday, at least potentially, work for you?

[kaffy_r]

Sunday for seeing the movie again? Sure! Wanna do a matinee in Evanston?

(Am I correct in thinking that you, too, have already seen it once? Kewl. Also, Stan Lee was very definitely in the movie - he's been in every Marvel-connected movie, a la Hitchcock, as far as I know; certainly all the ones I've seen.)

[kaffy_r]

First off, your icon? Is impressing me and making me incredibly jealous.

Second, you're right about the "strong woman" antipathy out there. I think it's even worse if an actress has the gall to be conventionally pretty but demand to be taken seriously - and pull off acting jobs portraying strong women while doing so. I honestly haven't been able to fathom the Johansson dislike, which I gather is something of long-standing among some people (notably, but not completely, men, apparently), beyond the recent opprobrium heaped on her for this film.

And someone pointed out to me that most movie reviewers, even those who loved the film, either ignored Johansson and the Widow, or denigrated with faint praise or worse. I liked this story about the phenomenon.

[lyricwrites]

If you write Avengers fic, I'll read it. Just so you know.

I adored Black Widow, of course. They managed to make her simultaneously badass as all hell, and not featureless or fearless. The fact that she was palpably terrified of the Hulk rounded out her character, made sense considering how she works-how do you trick an emotion incarnate?-and helped build the Hulk up into what he should be: a primal force of chaos, more terrible than the gods, and perfectly capable of pounding said gods against the floor until they get the point.

(Also quite fond of the way the Hulk moved: gorilla-like and lightning fast despite his size. Perhaps it was a small thing compared with everything else that was going on, but I liked the detail.)

At any rate, I watched the movie three times and I'm still not tired of it. I don't have any fic-bunnies myself, but that doesn't mean I won't read 'em.

[kaffy_r]

The fact that she was palpably terrified of the Hulk rounded out her character,

Oh absolutely; I was also incredibly impressed with how Johansson played weariness and outright (and quite reasonable) fear when she got Cap to throw her onto the Chitauri vehicle. It made me respect her; any agent/superhero/good guy who isn't afraid of bad craziness like that is going to go off half-cocked and get themselves killed, and Agent Romanova (I insist on using the proper Russian last-name nomenclature) knows that perfectly well. It's why she's one hell of an agent-assassin.

I like your points about how Whedon and the production team brought the Hulk to the screen - and I like the way you made them. As always, you write with gorgeous, evocative phraseology, when you say things like a primal force of chaos, more terrible than the gods, and perfectly capable of pounding said gods against the floor until they get the point. and ...Also quite fond of the way the Hulk moved: gorilla-like and lightning fast despite his sizeGlad to hear you're another

[lyricwrites]

I like your points about how Whedon and the production team brought the Hulk to the screen - and I like the way you made them. As always, you write with gorgeous, evocative phraseology

Aw, thanks! Seems we have a lot of the same reactions to the movie.