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Addition/explanation

Apr 21, 2007 21:15

The post I made yesterday was not really about anything that has already happened. It's just that I've seen my fair share of fandom meltdowns, and I can see the *seeds* of one here (not 'here' in the sense of 'in this community' but in this fandom in general). And I think (call me Pollyanna! *g*) that if we're all *aware* that the seeds are there, ( Read more... )

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ex_emeriin213 April 21 2007, 19:51:52 UTC

It's perfectly fine, I understand why we might have needed a manifesto to not get so bitter that we're starting to get nasty. But this is a place for bitterness, and if anyone starts getting bitchy, then they will be seen to. I want this community to go well and it doesn't need to be tarnished.

And god, that was long-winded. Everything is good. :)

Re: Oh, and I want to read that fic, too! ex_emeriin213 April 21 2007, 22:39:33 UTC

It gets nastier? Yay! Nasty is fun ;)

Ooooh, you know what we *really* need?!? hmpf April 21 2007, 23:31:14 UTC

A Sandman/LOM crossover. As Sam clearly lives in Dream's realm now, or at least somewhere between Dream's and Death's. They could have a talk, from suicide to suicide. (Only that in Dream's case, there *was* something *sort of* healthy about it, because at least he gets a new-and-improved incarnation. But then, he is one of the Endless, and Sam isn't.) Or Sam could meet Death. Sam *needs* to meet Death. She'd throw French bread at him!

Oh, arrgh. I may have to write this. hmpf April 21 2007, 23:36:54 UTC

I don't want to write this. It's going to take ages. Can't *you* write it?

Or we could both.

Hey, a challenge, maybe? Maybe that'd get me to finish at least a draft of it in a space of less than two years...

I think if I wrote this it would actually end up really fluffy, like. I mean, not 'fluffy' fluffy, but... somehow, I actually doubt that Death would throw bread at Sam. She'd be the same she's with every mortal - accepting, gentle, not judging. And if he did start to feel guilty about killing himself she'd probably tell him, "you got a lifetime, just like everyone else."

Dammit, plot bunny, die, die! hmpf April 21 2007, 23:40:12 UTC

Gah. Getting flashes of scenes and dialogue now. Oh, arrgh, I don't *need* this!!!

Re: Oh, arrgh. I may have to write this. m31andy April 21 2007, 23:45:27 UTC

A challenge would be good.

(Let's see how many types of anthropomorphic characters can we get to be really, really disappointed at Sam.)

You sure that among less than 30 people there are going to be... hmpf April 21 2007, 23:49:14 UTC

... more than two who even *know* the comic? ;-)

(I'm having a total creativity explosion in my head right now. Could start writing this fic *right away*. Oh, damn. Why doesn't this ever happen when I have *time*?)

Re: You sure that among less than 30 people there are going to be... m31andy April 21 2007, 23:53:08 UTC

Well, it's not just Sam. We've got anthropomorphic characters in all sorts of fandoms. Especially Death.

(Envisages the salmon mousse Death of Monty Python. Now *that* would be good.)

Terry Pratchett is quite popular. Susan would have a *field day* with Sam. As would Quoth.

Re: You sure that among less than 30 people there are going to be... m31andy April 21 2007, 23:53:57 UTC

Sam = Sandman. Just fill in the extra letters!!!

Re: You sure that among less than 30 people there are going to be... hmpf April 21 2007, 23:55:34 UTC

They even have essentially the same reason for wanting to die: the inability to change themselves.

Re: You sure that among less than 30 people there are going to be... m31andy April 21 2007, 23:59:51 UTC

So it was more of a serendipitous typo?

*grin*

Too, too true. But at least Dream realised that this was a problem for the whole of creation and his act of giving up was a sort of noble sacrifice as well.

(Even if I *did* want to slap him for being so bloody emo...)

Hehe. hmpf April 22 2007, 00:15:30 UTC

Dream invented emo, I think. I mean, he can even make it *rain* if he feels angsty! *g*

You know, merging the LOM universe with the Sandman universe actually removes a lot of the bitterness for me. Because human stupidity and tragic pointlessness are just such a given there, and at the same time accepted as an inevitable part of a universe that is nevertheless essentially wonderful, that it's sort of insignificant. It's just not tragic on the same scale as the LOM ending would be *without* that kind of background. It's like... yeah, it's tragic, but so are 99% of human life, so what? It's all part of the big, beautiful picture. Or something.

Not very coherent here, sorry.

Re: Hehe. m31andy April 22 2007, 00:26:17 UTC

You know, I *loved* that sequence when he's mooching around being morose. Sort of reminded me of my teen years.

I would've loved to have been able to make it rain on spec though.

Well, removing bitterness is one of the points of this comm. I'm glad it seems to be working!

Re: Ooooh, you know what we *really* need?!? m31andy April 21 2007, 23:39:50 UTC

Oh hell. *envisages the whole of 1973 in the Dreaming* I'm positive Lucien would be suitably scathing.

Sam so needs to meet Death. She's not going to be very happy with him, that's for sure. She wasn't that impressed with her own brother!

Hmm, have now been plot-bunnied. But not now - I need to get back to writing porn...

How about co-production? hmpf April 21 2007, 23:41:45 UTC

I've always wanted to try co-writing something, just to see if it could get me to 'speed up', and this bunny's eating my brain right now (can't write now, though, but you know, I'm taking some notes, and stuff), and it seems to have gotten you, as well... *g*

We could give Ruth and Sam some closure in a dream, too. hmpf April 21 2007, 23:43:39 UTC

Etc. etc. etc.

Oh God....

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