Is the dam bursting?

[jpmassar]

Senate Armed services report on treatment of detainees released (PDF).

The abuse of detainees in U.S. custody cannot simply be attributed to the actions of "a few bad apples" acting on their own. The fact is that senior officials in the United States government solicited information on how to use aggressive techniques, redefined the law to create

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[whipartist]

There has to be some way that the CIA and Cheney can both be lying.

[jpmassar]

Sure, but it's (highly) classified.

[adbjupe]

I've been reading some of the released memos and some summaries about it. What immediately popped into my mind was: It walks like a duck and it looks like a duck.
It shows where you can't codify morals. My morals make it actually pretty easy to judge what's right and wrong. And it shows who has an entirely different set of morals than mine: those lawyers and the people who asked them for legal advice. I would not have to ask.

[freelikebeer]

Do you believe less the CIA or Cheney?

CIA in a no-brainer.

[jpmassar]

"It won't surprise you that I don't consider Dick Cheney a particularly reliable source"

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, today, testifying to Congress

[freelikebeer]

I still think CIA in a landslide. Ol' Cheney's subterfuge is almost calculable.

[jpmassar]

Cha-ching!

"The National Archives confirms that Cheney formally requested the release of classified CIA documents to prove that the intelligence gathering ends justified the torture means."