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kitten_goddess December 28 2007, 19:35:00 UTC
Thank you. I'm stealing the link and reposting it to my LJ right now.

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*gasp* mrmeval December 28 2007, 21:47:12 UTC
I can't get rid of this meat form I like meat too much!

Read into that everything you dream of, you're wrong but it's so much fun.

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Re: *gasp* jordan179 December 29 2007, 00:11:08 UTC
I don't see why anyone's going to be forced to do anything ...

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Re: *gasp* mrmeval December 29 2007, 00:41:37 UTC
No where in my comment was force mentioned.

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zaimoni December 29 2007, 07:50:00 UTC
I went ahead and pulled the link as context for a comparative religion article.

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maxgoof December 29 2007, 20:31:49 UTC
It would also be adviseable to define what one means by "improve" when it comes to life.

A longer life is not always in improvement. Changing one's form is not always an improvement. What may seem an improvement for society may not be an improvement for the individual, and vice versa.

Using gene therapy to enable someone to actually become an anthropomorphic lion may seem an improvement to the individual, but society may not like the fact that this guy can now rip your throat out.

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jordan179 December 29 2007, 22:23:40 UTC
A longer life is not always in improvement.

Well, it is all other things being equal. The reason I emphasize this is that an extra century or millennium spent in hideous agony is probably not an improvement over death; but an extra century or millennium spent in tolerably good health clearly is an improvement.

Changing one's form is not always an improvement.

Of course. Obviously, changing one's form into a less capable form would be a degradation of capability.

What may seem an improvement for society may not be an improvement for the individual, and vice versa.Using gene therapy to enable someone to actually become an anthropomorphic lion may seem an improvement to the individual, but society may not like the fact that this guy can now rip your throat out.Sure, but we could handle this by treating people with modifications rendering them physically dangerous to others as possessing the equivalent level of "deadly weapons," and restricting them appropriately (for instance if the man-lion used his mighty jaws in a mere shoving ( ... )

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stokerbramwell December 29 2007, 23:25:43 UTC
I like transhumanism insofar as improving health, length of life, quality of life, and all that are concerned. I think sometimes it promises too much, and takes on too many religious tones (probably why there's any controversy to it all). But my faith isn't threatened by nanotechnology, and I'm not gonna turn 'em down if I need some. ;p

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