Effects of Obama's Brilliant Iran Deal

[jordan179]

So far I haven't seen much coverage of this in the MSM or even Fox News, but Obama's Iran deal seems to have simultaneously

(1) - Totally failed to restrain Iran, even if the Iranians honor it (the deal lets the Iranians process nuclear fuel to a limited degree of enrichment, as far as I can see binds them to no effective means of inspection, and

Comments

[luagha]

Not a slam, just a comment:

In dark times, fantasies becomes more popular.

This could have been foreseen simply from the popularity of the Lord of the Rings movies without even looking at the election of foolish/controlled leftists.

[cutelildrow]

I dunno, I was excited about the Lord of the Rings movies because I enjoyed reading the books when I was younger; not because of any distant (think edge of the Universe distant) leftist leanings.

[justgoto]

So, basically, Obama is laying the grounds for a nuclear war in the Mideast
This consistent incompetence of his isn't accidental.

[jordan179]

The thing I don't get about the assumption that this is intentional on his part is "Whom does it help?" It doesn't, logically, help the Mideast Muslims very much: the logical sequel to Iran acquiring nuclear weapons is Iran launching an atomic war, probably out of their weight class, and being very severely handled in consequence. Is Obama so impossibly short-sighted that he can't follow the reasoning leading to such a conclusion?

It's possible that Obama just hates America and the West so much that he doesn't care who in the Third World gets hurt, no matter how much, as long as Americans or Westerners also get hurt, if only a little.

The joke's on him even there. The logical consequence of such scream-and-leap Muslim tactics will be a massive right-wing backlash in America, of the sort likely to lead to my American Mandate or Kratman's American Empire.

So I find it hard to comprehend his motives, if he's really acting according to some sort of plausible long-term plan.

[luagha]

1. They have ideas that don't work in the real world.

2. They usually have Republicans around who are capable of making some part of their ideas kinda half work, half fail, and stagger along.

3. They've been relentless purging Republicans from positions of not necessarily power, but 'ability.'

4. Whether or not they want to help out to make things kind of work, the Republicans have been boxed out.

5. We see actual full failures now, instead of just the 'usual' cost overruns and semi-working programs littered with heavy fraud and malfeasance and payoffs to cronies.

6. And they wonder why their idea didn't work just because they ordered it so.

[cutelildrow]

This whole comment. All of it.

I don't know how true / accurate this is (the list, not the examples listed), but if it IS, then it's a very scary list.

http://neprimer.com/1963ComGoals.htm

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
-31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.