The Bizarre Crisis of Europe

[jordan179]

As skarmanpointed out in my earlier post:

Part of it is abject fear of the large muslim minorities from North Africa within their borders. In France, at the drop of a hat, the North Africans will start bloody riots. The police are fed up but are not allowed to crack down hard enough. Let's not forget the North Africans are being supported by the

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[igorilla]

It will be the Europeans who will be posting sad photographs in art galleries -- American ones, since any kaffirs trying to do such a thing in European ones will be summarily executed to the cheers of the ummah

A little humility is requested : you're on your way in the same direction

[jordan179]

Slightly -- but I'm hoping that Obama's recent attempt to make criticizing Islam prosecutable as a violation of Muslim civil rights will contribute to his own downfall, because America has a very strong tradition of free speech, dating back even before the Revolution.

[igorilla]

He won

[jordan179]

I'm talking about the recent statement by the Justice Department, which came in 2013.

[mrbogey]

The curious thing is that if moderate Muslims oppose militant Muslims, then why is criticism of Islamic extremist derided as hate-speech by "moderate" Muslims? Why aren't the moderate Muslims lashing out against the militant ones since they're supposedly besmirching Islam?

I believe we know the answer.

[skarman]

Sadly, at one time, I believed the whole 'moderate' muslim thing. I have friends and colleagues who are muslim but drink alcohol etc. So, I thought, yeah, they're around but then I was abused of that notion

[marycatelli]

A discussion here.

Confounding expectations, these prisoners display no interest in Islam whatsoever; they are entirely secularized. True, they still adhere to Muslim marriage customs, but only for the obvious personal advantage of having a domestic slave at home. Many of them also dot the city with their concubines-sluttish white working-class girls or exploitable young Muslims who have fled forced marriages and do not know that their young men are married. This is not religion, but having one’s cake and eating it.

The young Muslim men in prison do not pray; they do not demand halal meat. They do not read the Qu’ran. They do not ask to see the visiting imam.

[expanding_x_man]

I will read that discussion, but if it is true (and I don't doubt it) that the Muslim prisoners are secularized and simply use radical Islam as a front for their criminal and anti-social activities, than what we have is a criminal gang. A gang with the mask of a major world religion and the far left behind it. But, the far left, has often colluded with violent criminals.

[baron_waste]

a reaction from the native Europeans, and that the reaction will be extremely violent. The European governments are making it worse

The only quibble I would make, is that the reaction will be against those governments, rather than against the people the disarmed, cowed subjects of those governments have been relentlessly conditioned not to resist or dispute. Individual Westerners are no longer equipped mentally or physically to fight in the streets - it will be ballots, rather than bullets - and it will be the helmeted riot-armored goons of those new governments that will move in, 1968 Chicago style, on the “no-go areas.”

After which they will continue doing their job against all other Enemies of the State, including the very people who elected them if history is any guide, but so it goes.The trigger to watch for, as always, is the economy. While the countries involved can afford to play around, they do, as we see. When the bills come due - that's when you'll see “multi-culti” go flying with a riot-cop bootprint fresh on its

[lostboy_lj]

The only quibble I would make, is that the reaction will be against those governments, rather than against the people the disarmed, cowed subjects of those governments have been relentlessly conditioned not to resist or dispute.

In some countries, maybe, but I don't think it will slow their demographic attrition or much alter the outcome (islamization and/or balkanization of the E.U.) For instance, a wave of La Pen-ish reaction might wins a few races in France, but I think any such coalition would be more like a temporary political insurgency than a true realignment. The same twilight equation will still apply -- aging population of impotent pensioneers. They were all raised on the government teat to be Nietzschean "last men", including those "riot-armored goons" you speak of. I've seen those guys in "action" against rock & bottle throwers, and the Gestapo they ain't.

Europe will discover soon enough that neither ballots nor bullets are proper substitutes for babies, since that is who grows up to wield both.

[lostboy_lj]

Another alternative is that the Europeans really are so decadent that they will sit helplessly and watch their own homes be taken away from them by a far-weaker and openly-declared foe.

Europe is doomed, and has been for some time now. For better or worse, she is entering a twilight phase she can't escape from -- not only because of decades of intellectual and fiscal decadence, but because of insurmountable demographics

[cutelildrow]

A thought occurred to me while reading your comments. In a way, after a fashion, the attitude the European Left / intellectual elite / the Left as a whole perceive Muslims as an easily manipulated slave race (after a fashion) whose sole purpose is to 'keep the dissident middle class in line with welfare taxes' stay chained by welfare and be used as an easily led, but increasing voting base who will sometimes be used as menial labour.

Mind, this will not stay the reality, as we're seeing already.

In terms of demographics war, I really don't understand why the whole 'don't have children' attitude of the Left still continues to function. It simply makes no sense to me that you'd actively encourage your own population to cease it's own renewal while encouraging the entry of the 'slave population.' But the hatred of the Left for those who do have families is blatant - well, the self-sufficient families at any rate. The ones who are on welfare are no different from the voting mine demographic.

The nihilism of this is mindboggling,

[jordan179]

... the attitude the European Left / intellectual elite / the Left as a whole perceive Muslims as an easily manipulated slave race (after a fashion) whose sole purpose is to 'keep the dissident middle class in line with welfare taxes' stay chained by welfare and be used as an easily led, but increasing voting base who will sometimes be used as menial labour.

Precisely. The Left sees the Muslim immigrants as inherently low-status and hence in no danger of taking over and imposing their own rules upon the Left elite themselves. The Left does not realize that power does not follow the rules of party invitations ... and they especially do not realize that their own power may become irrelevant as the Muslim numbers grow and as the State continues to refuse to enforce normal laws upon them.

In terms of demographics war, I really don't understand why the whole 'don't have children' attitude of the Left still continues to function. It simply makes no sense to me that you'd actively encourage your own population to cease it's own renewal

[lostboy_lj]

Yeah, it's weird, especially since they claim to understand social forces and evolutionary biology.But since it's clear they don't, it's not so weird, right