Occupy Oakland Tries to Capture the Oakland Convention Center - Occupiers Getting Desperate

[jordan179]

Occupy Oakland attepted to occupy the Oakland Convention Center, with grandiose plans of turning it into some sort of political-social headquarters. The Oakland Police Force disabused them of these delusions, arresting some 300 of them. Interestingly, the Occupiers are becoming more violent.

Occupy Oakland organizers had earlier vowed to take

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[baron_waste]

The last damned thing in the world we need is an American Baader-Meinhof Gang. Laughter truly is the best medicine - let the whole thing become a charade, a farce, and it will dissolve for lack of participation.

Make martyrs, and you've made a serious blunder.

[jordan179]

Enforcing the law against the Occupiers is hardly a "serious blunder." The Occupiers are in material and publicly harmful violation of any number of laws, and their arrests and imprisonment would be a good thing, since it would tend to restore public order, help the economies of the cities they afflict, and make people less willing to participate in these riots, since they now might by doing so be facing months or years in prison, rather than slaps on the wrist.

There is nothing about membership in a mob which morally or should legally confer a defense against criminal acts committed by the individual. This is actually the principle at law: to the extent that we fail to enforce it, we encourage violent and destructive mobs

[baron_waste]

“My theory of riot control”? Oh, yah - it was you, tried to smear me as an “anti-Semite” some while back. I'd forgotten just who that was… It's always worth a grin.

[baron_waste]

'Sides, I think I refuted that charge pretty effectively…

[chipuni]

They're also being incredibly stupid in their choice of targets.

The Oakland Convention Center? Where the floor plans are a few clicks away from anyone, including the police? Where there's plenty of doors that they would have to defend?

[jordan179]

Oh, indeed. Plus, the Oakland Convention Center is sufficiently important to the city that no sane Mayor would refuse to order its defense, or recapture if taken. They would have been wiser to try to ... but no, I won't give them any ideas.

[gothelittle]

Well, keep in mind, this is the movement that decided they were going to get through the winter in safety and comfort by building igloos...

...in Boston, Massachusetts.

[jordan179]

Heh, one of the funniest conversations I overheard on the streets of Rockridge (northern Oakland, on the Berkely border) involved a pro-Occupier almost sobbing in frustration that the Boomers wouldn't help lead their revolution. The Occupiers are deficient in even the most minimal sorts of common sense, and it shows.

[banner]

There is a fourth reason they are becoming violent and you missed that one: Because George Soros, the man who is bankrolling the movement told them too!

[jordan179]

How does this achieve Soros' ends, though? The Occupiers seem to be robbing votes from the Democrats, because the cities which they are afflicting are primarily Democrat ones, giving the Republicans an opportunity to run on "law and order." They are certainly falling far short of the level of violence which would be necessary to have even a remote chance of inducing the people to yield in order to have peace.

[banner]

George Soros is a NAZI, you have to remember that first and foremost. Haven't you noticed that he's going after ALL of the countries that opposed Nazi Germany? He isn't looking to 'profit' he's looking to Destroy. That is what he does. To be honest if I were president I would have his ass capped the second I took office. he is an ENEMY of the USA and freedom. He brings chaos and destruction where ever he goes. He is against Democracy.

I mean all of this is pretty obvious, he's an evil man, he doesn't even make any bones about it. He wants to destroy the US, which is why he supports Barry, who is pretty much his puppet anyway. If he makes money in the process, well so much the better, but he has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on getting laws passed that make things worse, his goal is the collapse of America. I just pray that he dies SOON, before he does anymore damage.

[jordan179]

George Soros is a NAZI, you have to remember that first and foremost. Haven't you noticed that he's going after ALL of the countries that opposed Nazi Germany? He isn't looking to 'profit' he's looking to Destroy. That is what he does. To be honest if I were president I would have his ass capped the second I took office. he is an ENEMY of the USA and freedom. He brings chaos and destruction where ever he goes. He is against Democracy.

This is a possible interpretation of his actions -- he might be the closest thing in real life to a Bond Villain. I don't see much evidence of this: it seems more likely that he fancies himself a radical-left reformer attempting actions intended to bring greater social justice and peace. You should remember that those on the Left also believe in their ideologies.

Wrong Convention Center

[marmoe]

The Henry J Kaiser Convention Center is abandoned, the Oakland Convention Center - whose website you've found and which is active - is a few blocks away.

http://g.co/maps/5v23j
http://oaklandlocal.com/article/historic-kaiser-convention-centers-future-remains-unknown

Doesn't really make the attempted occupation better, but it's not an attack on a flourishing company either.

[polaris93]

The desperation of the Occupiers, their radicalization and increasingly overt anti-Americanism and violence, means that the movement is about to implode.

I sincerely hope so. Why more hasn't been done to stop their shenanigans and suitably punish the worst offenders is a mystery, but now that they're becoming more violent, maybe municipalities will be forced to do what they should have been doing all along: arrest the ones who are doing the most damage and lock them up long enough to make a strong impression on the rest of the movement. This has gone far enough.