South Sudan to Declare Independence from Sudan!

[jordan179]

Courtesy of cutelildrow and an expansion of my comment to her post in http://cutelildrow.livejournal.com/2271443.html?view=5895635#t5895635 on the comment by Lawrence Solomon in the Financial Post "To Islam's Dismay, a New (Oil) Nation is born Read more... )

Comments

[typewriterking]

I don't recall a secession this significant in Africa since Biafra. May it not turn out so tragically.

[cutelildrow]

Actually, from the report, it sounds like the north is immediately poised to declare war on the South... so yes, I echo the hope that it not turn out so tragically.

China and Russia are the heavy hitters backing the creation of South Sudan; and it sounds like that the Chinese are aware of which side will hold the greater economic influence, and really, that's only why China is interested... which is a benefit for the South Sudanese.

[brezhnev]

With that kind of backing, the north might not want to mess with them... Unfortunately, the US would probably stand back if there were a conflict, but at least that's better than taking the wrong side.

I was hoping that 0blabla, with his ties to East Africa, would at least try to fix that corner of the world, but I guess I won't be holding my breath...

[cutelildrow]

I would have thought that too, but well, Muslim interests...?

[yamamanama]

If southern Sudan is that important, I can't see things turning out too good for them. I expect a modern Uganda at best, a Central African Republic Empire at worst.

[jordan179]

Sorry ... how does this follow?

[cutelildrow]

It doesn't. It's a nonsequiteur.

[yamamanama]

An entirely new part of the world is opened up to both governments like France and China (I'd rather have China throwing their weight around than France, given their past history - China may turn a blind eye to human rights abuses, but at least they give back unlike France) and various nongovernmental groups like The Fellowship. Any tension between the Christians and animists? Expect it to be magnified.

[yamamanama]

Also, either there isn't a physical difference between north and south Sudanese people or I don't have the level of specialized training it takes to see that difference.

The former actually has precedence in Yugoslavia, Rwanda, and eastern Asia.

[luagha]

As stated, north Sudan: Muslim,Aarab, mediterranean olive complection.

South Sudan: Black Christian (or animist).

[cutelildrow]

I'm fairly sure that the Sudanese, unlike yama, know the difference very well.

The difference in ethnicity is noted by this person in a couple of photos, no less:

http://www.sudanesethinker.com/2007/02/03/SUDAN-ARAB-OR-AFRICAN/

(link courtesy of oronoda )

[oronoda]

Haha, beat me to it.

[melvin_udall]

Liberal black Americans don't care about current African slavery as much as they do about attacking whitey over the past, so why would they care about this? Apparently slavery was the worst sin ever and reason to condemn our Founding Fathers for not preventing the beginning of this Republic by insisting on its immediate end, but African slavery that's still happening which they don't care about warrants a yawn yet they hold no guilt.

Gosh, to be a Liberal must be so easy. Never having to care but always feeling victimized and righteous.

Happy Kwanzaa!

[cutelildrow]

Gosh, to be a Liberal must be so easy. Never having to care but always feeling victimized and righteous.

Yeah, that's baffled me. How can people care and not care at the same time?

[melvin_udall]

Pure unfettered self-absorption.

[cutelildrow]

*sigh* why can't they be really self absorbed and not bother anyone else, I don't know...

Would be nice though, wouldn't it?

[yamamanama]

Oh, look who's operating in southern Sudan!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Resistance_Army

And speaking of slavery...

[jordan179]

Yes, they're horrible. What's your point? Is it better to just have Muslims enslaving non-Muslims? If so, why?

[yamamanama]

What I'm saying is nothing's going to improve.

[jordan179]

Even assuming that nothing got better for the south Sudanese -- which, given how bad off they are right now, is an improbable outcome of independence coupled with oil wealth -- the loss of territory and population by the aggressively-jihadist Sudan would constitute an improvement for the world.