Haj Amin al-Husseini, founder of the Palestinian Arabs, and his alliance with the Nazis in WWII

[jordan179]

Courtesy of Alan M. Dershowitz, the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law at Harvard, in Front Page Magazine (http://www.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=35708)

(bold emphases mine)

The official leader of the Palestinians, Haj Amin al-Husseini, spent the

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[galadrion]

And is it really "liberal" to acknowledge such a desire?

Yes. Yes, it is. No matter what today's liberals, left-wingers, and socialists, open or otherwise, might claim, the Nazi Party was and is a left-wing political group. For cryin' out loud, it's right in the name: the National Socialist German Workers' Party! Regardless of what anyone may think of their tactics (and let's be honest: the tactics of the NSGWP more closely matched those so dearly beloved by today's liberals than the various right-wing groups) their political and economic platforms were classic left-wing "the government either owns or controls everything; the people are sheep to be sheared." So yes, it's natural that today's "liberals" should express sympathy and admiration for a supporter of and apologist for the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

(Honestly, the only truly liberal thing about them is the liberty they want to take with everyone else's property. They've stretched the term beyond all reasonable meaning - kinda like the old Soviet "Democracies

[gothelittle]

Yeah, one of the worst lies that has been perpetuated in recent history is the claim that fascism is right-wing extremism. It comes from people who, like Sauron, believe that the Other Side is just waiting to pick Their Person to receive ultimate power... they never suspect that the Other Side seeks to leave the ultimate power unused and unusable.

[galadrion]

Hmph. Fascism is, quite literally, the rule of force. "The power of the axe". As such, it can be exploited by any movement which seeks to promote the state above the individual - and, historically, left-wing (so-called "liberal") movements have been much more blatant and much less restrained than have been their counterparts.

As for the people who initiate and promote that particular confusion: I believe that at least some of them are not so innocent or naive. Some of them are quite well aware that their villification of their opposition is unjust... and they do so anyway, as a deliberate ploy. After all, if their opponents are monsterous and evil, that means that they are the Heroes of Light and Good, no?

[polaris93]

You're right. And too many movements -- such a wealth of information in the word "movement"! ;-) -- are guilty of just such verbal prestidigitation.

[polaris93]

Do we really want to see a state which honors the Nazis and active Nazi allies like Husseini be founded? Really? And is it really "liberal" to acknowledge such a desire?

There are about a million reasons not to want Palestine founded as a nation -- this is one of them. The more I hear and read about Palestine, the more unsavory, not to mention evil, it seems.

[jordan179]

"Palestine" was founded by evil men, has grown through evil means, and uses evil means now to attempt to establish itself as a nation-state. (Indeed, it uses counterproductively evil means to do so -- a little goodwill and honor in the 1990's would have seen Palestinian statehood by now). I find it utterly amazing that anyone in favor of "peace" or "justice" would support the formation of a Palestinian state or, indeed, anything that tends to increase the power of the Palestinians.

[polaris93]

find it utterly amazing that anyone in favor of "peace" or "justice" would support the formation of a Palestinian state or, indeed, anything that tends to increase the power of the Palestinians.

Isn't it odd how those who are most concerned about "social justice" do want Palestine to become a nation-state? {sarcasm}

"Palestine" was founded by evil men, has grown through evil means, and uses evil means now to attempt to establish itself as a nation-state. (Indeed, it uses counterproductively evil means to do so -- a little goodwill and honor in the 1990's would have seen Palestinian statehood by now).

If anything, this proves that those who have pushed the hardest to make Palestine a nation-state are true sociopaths. Sociopaths frequently trip themselves up when it comes to any interactions with other people, whether good, bad, or indifferent, because they can't see the consequences of their actions, at least when it comes to social, political, and economic matters.

[jordan179]

"Palestine" was founded by evil men, has grown through evil means, and uses evil means now to attempt to establish itself as a nation-state. (Indeed, it uses counterproductively evil means to do so -- a little goodwill and honor in the 1990's would have seen Palestinian statehood by now).

If anything, this proves that those who have pushed the hardest to make Palestine a nation-state are true sociopaths. Sociopaths frequently trip themselves up when it comes to any interactions with other people, whether good, bad, or indifferent, because they can't see the consequences of their actions, at least when it comes to social, political, and economic matters.

"Oft evil will doth evil mar," from J. R. R. Tolkien. Very applicable to the Palestinians.