Chavez Threatens War with Honduras

Jun 28, 2009 20:27

This isn't being run as a headline in the AP, which is too busy trying to make the Honduran military look like villains for daring to defend their own country's constitution, but Chavez has made what amount to war threats against Honduras. You'll laugh when you read the headline that is being run ( Read more... )

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polaris93 June 29 2009, 04:23:48 UTC
I wonder how many years it will take Obama's successor to undo the damage he is doing now to American interests, and to the interests of freedom around the world?

Oh, probably forever -- assuming that the current administration doesn't start a nuclear war that pretty much wipes out all civilization anywhere on Earth, and maybe humanity with it. I have suspected all along that Obama isn't merely incompetent, that he knows exactly what he's doing -- and that he has sold out to the enemy. And this sort of stunt proves it.

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whitefangedwolf June 29 2009, 05:40:43 UTC
Hopefully he is incompetent or we may shortly need a military coup to defend the American constitution from a corrupt president.

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polaris93 June 29 2009, 05:41:59 UTC
Yes. Thank God our military are sworn to defend the Constitution and not the president.

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jordan179 June 29 2009, 15:44:10 UTC
Which may bother Obama, and partially account for his willingness to defend a wannabe tyrant like Zelaya.

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shadowfox24 June 29 2009, 07:17:42 UTC
"This is about as good as you're likely to get south of the US border."

He's still breathing. That means for a Latin American country he got the 1st Class, White Glove treatment. Why he's still breathing is a mystery to me.

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jordan179 June 29 2009, 15:44:51 UTC
I personally hope that if he is returned to Honduras, he does not long survive his return. I'd rather see Zelaya murdered than hundreds or thousands of innocent Hondurans.

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lather2002 June 29 2009, 11:30:42 UTC
The Honduran Military made the mistake of not executing Zelaya instead of exiling him to Costa Rica.

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jordan179 June 29 2009, 14:11:46 UTC
The Honduran Military made the mistake of not executing Zelaya instead of exiling him to Costa Rica.

I had this thought myself. Ironically -- given the history of that part of the world -- had the Hondurans chosen to be less humane, they would have less of a problem today. It's also struck me that Zelaya is a bit of a fool to demand to be allowed to return to Honduras, as nothing has changed regarding the unconstitutionality of his actions, and he might well find himself at a minimum being subject to formal impeachment, at a maximum being murdered. He may be all encouraged by his powerful foreign friends, but can they protect him once he re-enters Honduras?

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lather2002 June 30 2009, 00:08:37 UTC
Yeah, they really screwed up big time by letting him go. I heard on the news today that tomorrow he is going to address the general assembly of the United Nations. From here who knows where it goes, particularly with Monkey Boy Obama as our President ..

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gothelittle June 29 2009, 11:58:36 UTC
Yeah, because Pelosi's a Republican, right ( ... )

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lather2002 June 29 2009, 12:39:31 UTC
You are such a confused Kirl. You need to suck on a carrot ... haha

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justgin1228 June 29 2009, 13:11:52 UTC
"I wonder how many years it will take Obama's successor to undo the damage he is doing now...."

There is a saying: when the cat's away, the mice play. That's why the thugs of the world are playing, knowing they can pretty much get away with any atrocity without interference from our "fearless" leader who wants to just "give peace a chance." Kind of like the Iran hostage crisis under Jimmy Carter's watch that went on for, what, 444 days? Then under Ronald Reagan it was swiftly resolved. We need another Ronald Reagan!

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jordan179 June 29 2009, 14:56:17 UTC
What this crisis actually reminds me of is the fall of Somoza. Just like Jimmy Carter missed the big picture of Fidel Castro's empire-building in 1979, Barack Obama is missing the big picture of Hugo Chavez's empire-building in 2009.

If anything, Obama's blundering is even less excusable: Somoza really was a tyrant, it's just that he was replaced by the worse tyranny of Ortega; in contrast, Micheletti's countercoup prevented a tyranny in Honduras. The lines are much more clearly drawn here: Obama is at best letting a reflexive hatred of Latin American militaries blind him to the reality of the situation; at worst, he is deliberately helping Hugo Chavez build an anti-American empire surrounding the Panama Canal, under the theory "no enemy to the Left."

I'm not exaggerating when I say that, if Chavez wins this one, Obama's successor will probably have to fight at least one war to set matters right.

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lather2002 June 30 2009, 00:15:53 UTC
Obama is no Jimmy Carter. Obama is a marxist in sheep's clothing. If anything, it may come to a bloody revolution in the USA sometime in the next 3 years ... Maybe even the possibility of Israel's Mossad doing something about Obama. Of course if they do, no one will ever know that it was them. ;)

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jordan179 June 30 2009, 10:47:33 UTC
(*sigh*)

It would be a bad thing if the Mossad decided that it had a veto power over our Presidents. In fact, if the Mossad started doing that, you'd actually get me to sign on to supporting a war against Israel.

You're also both seriously overestimating the Mossad and seriously underestimating US intelligence, counterintelligence and security agencies.

If Obama tried to do what Zelaya did, it's quite possible that the US Armed Forces would defend our Constitution the same way that the Honduran Armed Forces defended theirs. No need for assassination, though it would be one hell of a trial when they hauled Obama's sorry ass before the Supreme Court.

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