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jlh

Quick notes from Monday

Jan 30, 2007 09:20

Don't you love it when Colbert screws with WikipediaWhat I find most interesting about these Equus promotional photos is that despite all the blah blah blah about the play being quite serious in how nudity is used (all true) the producers have clearly decided to sell it as "see Dan Radcliffe in his debut as teenage heartthrob, naked with a horse ( Read more... )

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Comments 19

black_dog January 30 2007, 15:07:11 UTC

I have to admit, I'm enjoying the comedy of reactions to the Dan Radcliffe photos. I think the main thing you've nailed here, though, is how intentional it all is. This is his big statement: he's here, he's buff, get used to it! After all, it's fun to imagine how someone at Radcliffe's age and in Radcliffe's position would react to all these older folks pinching his cheeks and telling him "you used to be such a cute little chipmunk-face, yes you did!" Pinch this, please, ma'am!

Of course, it's kind of a pose, a little bit over the top on his part, too -- pasty, short English boy with barely-credible stubble, he does look cold, doesn't he? :) But you can tell he'll get there, so good for him!

sistermagpie January 30 2007, 15:24:58 UTC

It's kind of fascinating the difference that Clio brings up, that men can openly ogle underaged girls while women always have to act shocked at this sort of thing. (I remember seeing an interview with Elijah Wood for Fellowship of the Ring and it was on Regis and Kelly or something that the main topic seemed to be that he had facial hair. Granted EW is one of those young men who has imo misguided facial hair, but still.) It's like women always have to say, "How could YOU have facial hair? Or body hair? Or secondary sex characteristics! You're that cute little boy who was David Copperfield ( ... )

black_dog January 30 2007, 15:43:55 UTC

I think there may be a gender difference, too, in whether people perceive objectification as threatening and something that should be shamed and discouraged or just, you know, kind of a weird, fun thing about the world if you take it for what it's worth. I'm thinking of that scene in American Pie where the hero wakes up and he's been "used" for sex, hooray!

About aging child stars -- I'm just sort of speculating, but I wonder if there's a difference in the way male and female faces age from childhood, especially the type of face that is considered ideal for a child actor. A lot of male child stars end up as funny-looking adults -- think Macauley Culkin for instance. It may be that the features that make for "ideal" photogenic proportions in a boy actor -- big eyes, unusually distinct features -- just turn out oddly when the person is fully grown. This may be less true of girl actresses because they're not selected for faces that are quite so cartoonish.

sistermagpie January 30 2007, 16:48:04 UTC

Yes, I do think there's a big differences in the faces of males and females...though I think it may also be that women's faces are also admired for being more childlike. So if big eyes are cute in child stars, they are also more likely to be attractive in an adult woman ( ... )

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sistermagpie January 30 2007, 15:12:51 UTC

It really is hilarious seeing people respond to these pictures the same way they do to pictures that aren't blatantly erotic. This isn't like a picture of Dan from CoS where his rumpled shirt collar is the focus of only some fans. The boy's naked with a horse and looks like he's probably worked out a lot to make sure that looks somewhat impressive (no 70s bodies here!).

At the same time, I just don't find the pictures attractive at all, so the Bad Place of this particular young actor still has no appeal for me.

I couldn't believe that take on Jordan/Danny either. She didn't like him acting like a psycho because she thought he was only doing it because he felt sorry for her??? WTF? So she was upset that he was only pretending to not care about her feelings in the matter? He didn't want her enough even though he was crossing the line? Ew ( ... )

jlh January 30 2007, 18:50:07 UTC

I find it odd that Jordan really has such a low opinion of her sexual appeal. I mean, I guess you could see her as having that Powerful Woman Syndrome where she doesn't get much action, and maybe that could explain why she weakened to her ex-bf the asshole in the first place. And I can see why that entire experience has her feeling sort of humiliated to begin with, because not only does she have an unplanned pregnancy but with her ex who was a fuckwit to begin with but has only proven himself to be even more of a fuckwit through his behavior in this matter. All that said, though, I thought Danny was really clear in his "I'm coming for you" speech that he wants Jordan for Jordan, not because he's worried that she'll be alone with a baby. So I'm not sure why she doesn't get that ( ... )

chinawolf January 30 2007, 15:33:28 UTC

See, that's why I believe the Bad Place is a thing of a past, even though I was never subscribed to that, anyway. I have a problem with women drooling over twelve-year-olds because I just do not get it, but hey, whatever suits whomever. But those pictures? Anyone who feels bad having a naturally girlish reaction to a nice picture like that just makes me shrug ( ... )

jlh January 30 2007, 22:07:03 UTC

Best Week Ever noted that those pictures look like a D&G ad, which, I mean, what is more sexually superheated than Italian men's fashion adverts?

Tom being a complete idiot just irritates me. I'm so over all these characters being so stupid just so we can have conflict. Like, Jesus, people, pull it together. I'm giving Simon and Darius a pass for the moment because I think the story line is intriguing and necessary, but if it becomes Sorkin's usual heavy handed bullshit I will get irritated.

Jack is awesome. Did you guys get the show Wings over there? Did you ever see the movie Jeffrey?

OMG, FULLY WEEKLY LESSON. Like, Aaron, calm the fuck down.

tropes January 30 2007, 17:39:26 UTC

I haaaaaaaaaaaaaaate Aaron Sorkiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin and I haaaaaaaaaaaate Studio 6000000000000000000000000000000 yes I dooooooooooooooo.

But I flip back to it during the commercials of other shows to make fun of it.

I just. So smug. So anachronistic. So misguided in the portrayal of those Midwestern parents (still rankles). Sooooooo lazy.

I was never a West Wing fan, so I wasn't looking to love this, but I did give it a chance, for fairness.

HATE!

jlh January 30 2007, 22:11:15 UTC

Did you like A Few Good Men or The American President or Malice or Sports Night?

I thought A Few Good Men was a little overdone, and The American President was sweet but ultimately the prez was too perfect, I never really got into the West Wing for reasons I don't really understand and I thought Malice, like AFGM, was a little too neat. I really want to get the DVD for Sports Night (both seasons are in one set) but I think that's more about my current love of Olbermann (as those chars were based on Olbermann and Dan Patrick) and my love of Peter Krause thanks to Six Feet Under.

tropes January 30 2007, 22:15:58 UTC

The American President was okay. The rest, enh.

Sorkin is just so... Ugh. :( He seems craven and he seems like he's selling a version of America I don't recognize and don't like, espesically with this new show.

It's hard for me to articulate.

annearchy January 30 2007, 17:59:36 UTC

I always thought Daniel Radcliffe would grow up to be a hunk. Okay, a short hunk. But he's obviously worked out a good bit; he's not even vaguely flabby and looks like he doesn't have an ounce of fat on him. I'm thinking back to POA, when he was, literally, beautiful (IMO). Now he's grown up to be a short, handsome young man with a nice body. Nice meta on how it's expected that older men will ogle teenage girls but older women are supposed to not have eyes :P