Here's why I'm voting for Barack Obama (and you should, too)

Oct 15, 2008 10:47

Okay, so I don't like to get political, but I finally decided it's time to weigh in with my own opinion -- partly because I looked at CNN's electoral map and discovered that Washington state is only *leaning* towards Obama. Leaning?!

Reason #1: Sarah Palin. If you haven't seen the Katie Couric interviews (day 1, day 2) by now, you really need to ( Read more... )

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keith_london October 15 2008, 18:22:45 UTC
Reasons #1 and #2 for voting Obama aren't particularly good ones, IMO. It is based on a hypothetical fear. First, that McCain will die in office. It seems also based on very superficial faults against Palin. As if she won't have wise advisors should she have to deal with foreign affairs. You're also totally ignoring her accomplishments as Governor, as a reformer, and her knowledge and experience in handling energy-related issues. You also totally ignore her ability to communicate to ordinary Americans ( ... )

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jkling October 15 2008, 18:38:52 UTC
Are my first 2 arguments negative? You bet. There's plenty not to like about McCain/Palin ( ... )

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keith_london October 15 2008, 19:16:51 UTC
You frame your reasoning in absurd terms (which is your prerogative). it's like me asking - defend if you know why Palin shouln't deserve her high approval ratings as Governor ( ... )

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jkling October 15 2008, 19:46:50 UTC
You frame your reasoning in absurd terms (which is your prerogative). it's like me asking - defend if you know why Palin shouln't deserve her high approval ratings as Governor?

In other words, no, you can't defend her. Have you even listened to those interviews? I have yet to hear any defense of her anywhere and clearly with good reason -- she's indefensible.

You apply double standards to your own arguments which you fail to realise: for example - let's face it, Obama chose Biden because that increased his odds of winning too. And if you thought that disqualified McCain, then Obama too is disqualified (by your own "reasoning").

Well, that's a willful misrepresentation of an argument if ever I heard one. Real life is nuanced. There is more than one aspect to any given argument. Yes, Biden helps Obama get elected, but not as much as Clinton would have. You know this. You argued it yourself when Obama selected Biden. You're flying all over the map with scattershot attacks, much like the McCain campaign in recent weeks.

Changing ( ... )

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For what it's worth mcjulie October 15 2008, 20:37:03 UTC
You probably already know where I stand on this issue overall, but even so, I think you defended your points better than Mr. London defended his -- he resorted to insane troll logic on more than one occasion.

It was an opportunity for him to perhaps make a good opposing point or two for the benefit of Obama supporters reading your journal -- instead, his rants inspired me to wonder "who is this querulous idiot? He seems awfully angry about something but it's hard to tell what."

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Re: For what it's worth keith_london October 18 2008, 11:07:01 UTC
"resorted to insane troll logic" -- such as???

Back up your accusations!

(You ought to realise that resorting to vacuous name-calling means you do come across as an "empty suit" - having nothing worthwhile to add.)

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anghara October 15 2008, 22:23:57 UTC
I might have voted for him.

But no vote of mine is going to Biden. In any way shape or form. I'm happy to tell you why, if anyone's really interested, but I don't see the point of discussing it further out here - my reasons won't change anyone's mind.

No, I'm not going to vote for Wolf-Killer and Maverick, either. So if you want to look at it that way, mine will be a wasted vote whichever way you want to slice it. Can't be helped.

If he'd picked a different running mate (and no, I don't mean Hillary, the same reasons apply here as they do with Biden) I might have voted for Obama in November. As it is... not that he'll miss it, but he's lost one vote.

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jkling October 15 2008, 23:03:02 UTC
I'm interested. What's your beef with Biden?

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farmgirl1146 October 16 2008, 00:22:23 UTC
I agree with your argument. I will be voting Obama/Biden. I had reservations about Biden, but I have read extensively about him since he was nominated to be VP, and I found that much of what I thought I knew was wrong. It was misinformation that had been cleverly used by the Republicans against him starting years ago, and seems to have been aimed at him as a Senator.

There is no perfect candidate, but the Republicans have created a mess that may financially destroy this country. Everything that they and their propaganda machines (ala Fox News and others) say about Obama is more applicable to McCain-Palin. It is true that "the GOP has given us the first-ever Presidential/Vice Presidential slate with one member adjudicated guilty of a severe ethics violation and the other formally accused of a severe ethics/law violation." This is appalling ( ... )

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Yep bjcooper October 16 2008, 03:20:50 UTC
You are so right!

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