So, Just Who Is This New Companion, Anyway?

Mar 25, 2013 22:40

So, with NuWho Series 7 and a half nearly upon us, I thought I'd gauge the opinions of my esteemed flisters. Considering she seems to be something of a mystery woman (another one?!) and that her true nature and indeed identity may prove of vital importance in the course of the coming series, I thought I'd ask:

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gonzo21 March 25 2013, 22:44:54 UTC
I've called Romana so many times now, I'm afraid to do it again.

And I fear with Moffats tendency to set up really good mysteries and then blow the resolution, I'm probably gonna be disappointed again this time.

(Plus, in my head, Lucy Saxon did turn out to be Romana, because that's really the only thing that makes sense of that godawful mess of a story Rusty told.)

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gonzo21 March 25 2013, 22:46:06 UTC
But I think I'm gonna go for 'Something New'.

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jjpor March 25 2013, 22:56:56 UTC
Yeah, as much as I am a big fan of Romana, I think I'd rather they just kept her out of it rather than bring her back and do her badly. And I don't exactly have a lot of faith in NuWho's ability to do her well.

I don't know if there is any reasoning with The End of Time, but that is probably one of the least worst theories I've heard about it. ;)

I think you may actually be proven right there, actually - as much as the new series like throwaway references to the old, I'm not sure they'd actually have a major plot point hinge on a character really being another character who's never been referenced in the new series and a good chunk of the audience won't know from Adam.

Hmmm...should maybe have put "The TARDIS" as an option... Too late now.

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gonzo21 March 25 2013, 23:01:25 UTC
The only reason I think it might be Romana is Moffat has spent quite a lot of time and energy quietly re-writing a lot of the things Rusty did, and the horrible horrible way RTD fumbled the Time Lord return is, I am quite certain, something Moffat would want to either write out of the timeline altogether, or rework so that it's less sucktacular.

And if Romana did ever return, it would surely have to be tied into a bigger Time Lord story in order to explain to the new audience who Romana is and why they should care.

But this is way too much backstory, and given he hasn't even bothered explaining WHOSE VOICE THAT WAS IN THE TARDIS JUST BEFORE IT BLEW UP or indeed WHAT 'SILENCE WELL FALL' was all about, I can't see it becoming a thing. It'll be something new. And probably mostly naff.

... I'm adjusting my expectations downwards. :)

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justice_turtle March 26 2013, 00:16:55 UTC
I've seen an interesting note that "CAL", the little girl in the Library, looks a whole lot like a younger Jenna-Louise Coleman. And the Library two-parter was written by Moff. So maybe, the thinking behind this suggestion goes, he's beating the dead River Song horse: River, now trapped in the Library's virtual reality, has managed to communicate with CAL who occupies the same reality, and CAL is reaching out through time and space to form several different existences which all try to contact the Doctor.

It leaves a lot of things unexplained, but frankly I don't think there's going to be a good explanation. Moff'll just pull something out of the same orifice the last few arc resolutions came from. *koff, koff* ;P

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jjpor March 26 2013, 22:04:04 UTC
I will be very disappointed in Moffat if he brings River back in the new series, mainly because I don't really think that he will. I think her arc's over with that of the Ponds, or certainly should be anyway. I don't think lumbering new companions with old companions' baggage/recurring family members is exactly Cricket, as defined by the NuWho Rules.

No, no, he plans it all out in advance, in meticulous painstaking detail! XD

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elisi March 26 2013, 07:11:49 UTC
All the Claras are one Clara and she's something new and connected to the Big Bad.

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jjpor March 26 2013, 22:01:31 UTC
Yeah, that's sort of my feeling, too. There's a bit in the new series trailer where Eleven goes "are you a trap?" Might be, you know. Just might be...

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elisi March 26 2013, 22:34:40 UTC
It cracks me up no end! Of course she is a trap! (Pretend I'm using this icon.) She's plenty of other things beside that, of course, but oh yes, she's a trap alright. :)

Although actually, this icon works pretty well too. It's more subtle but...

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jjpor March 26 2013, 23:24:05 UTC
Yes, I'm thinking it's more than probable that when Eleven finds out what the deal is with her, he will wish that he hadn't. And surely if the Doctor can's spot an obvious trap by now...who can?

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lost_spook March 26 2013, 08:47:09 UTC
I've been thinking about the little girl in the library ep, too. I hadn't heard anyone else mention it, but I see I'm Not Alone.

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jjpor March 26 2013, 22:16:09 UTC
And I was reading someone on one of the comms claiming that the swings where Eleven meets the young Clara in the recent "prequel" video are the same ones used for the park in the Library story. Not surprising, perhaps, as NuWho is mostly filmed in and around Cardiff and there are presumably only so many parks with swings there, but still...

It will be interesting comparing notes when the upcoming series is over, assuming we are left any the wiser.

I'm glad somebody voted for Churchill, anyway. ;D

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liadtbunny March 26 2013, 15:35:12 UTC
Ok so who was the other Black Guardian voter;)?

I'm a bit miffed watching the new ads that sugguest Oswin is now a normal human girl from our time again. I quite liked her being from a different time in her first two outings.

Can I be boring and sugguest Oswin/etc is the same person but she's been split up and the Dr has meet all her dopplegangers and stick them together again to save the universe. A sort of Key to Time thingy.

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jjpor March 26 2013, 22:19:51 UTC
Yes, that's the one my money's secretly on. ;D

The Trickster in SJA was fairly obviously the Black Guardian too, wasn't he? At least, this was the conclusion I reached in discussion with another fan not very long ago. I'd had my suspicions before that, mind you.

Yes, I don't know what the obsession with all companions must be humans from Earth and roughly the present day is... Boring, Moffat - boring. ;D

Do you know what? I think that it's very likely to end up being something like that...either that or somebody...or something...has placed her as bait for the Doctor...

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liadtbunny March 27 2013, 16:38:03 UTC
I suppose the powers that be think "we" need a companion who is like us; human, early C21th otherwise the audience won't be able to relate to the Dr?

Bait, but it'll all go wrong and Oswin will help the Dr to defeat who made her. Might be too much like Baby Pond though.

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jjpor March 27 2013, 22:48:22 UTC
It's part of the Big Bumper RTD Rulebook of How New Who Must Be Done, which Moffat sticks to more closely than he would like fandom to believe, I think. Imho, they could afford to be a bit more adventurous - where's the fun in playing it safe all the time?

I think the comparisons have already been going around the comms - maybe it'll turn out to be something different, but...

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