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akashasheiress September 30 2012, 01:02:22 UTC
Hmm, I would say being sent back in time, never being able to get back home to your own time would be pretty nightmarish (a fact I thought was taken too lightly in Blink. I think I'd fall apart, especially if sent back to an era where women had less rights than now.

So, they're still not done with River, I'm guessing? What sort of dodgy stuff did she say. Was it along the lines of the ''The Doctor's friends do as they're told!'' nonsense? And was the episode shippy (sorry, you knew I'd ask that ;D)?

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jjpor October 2 2012, 19:26:34 UTC
I guess I meant, by the way it's presented in the episodes where it's featured, getting nobbled by the Angels doesn't seem *that* bad, but I agree, if you think about it in real life terms depending on when and where you did get zapped to, it'd be no picnic. I think the big thing for me would be family, friends and my general support network - I don't think I could take being all alone in the world, not without time to plan for it and get used to the idea. So the idea that I've seen bandied about that Amy and Rory must be happy because they've got each other, that feels slightly weird to me. And really it's Brian I feel the sorriest for - he told them to go with the Doctor after all ( ... )

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akashasheiress October 2 2012, 19:56:57 UTC
Yeah, the loneliness would be the worst for me, too. I mean, I can go for a few days without company and be fine, but it's more the idea of those people being completely out of reach, or not even existing at that point that would be nightmarish. And, yeah, the ''They're happy as long as they've got each other'' thing is just more of that romantic-love-is-all-that-matters aspects that NuWho and other modern telly is full of these days.

Well, that actually does sound egregiously shippy in terms of the Doctor. I mean,doing those things would definitely mean romantic/sexual attraction of some kind (Did he do it in front of her parents? If so: Ew). I'm kind of losing hope that we'll see the last of her anytime soon. Probably not for years, depending on how long Eleven stays. I don't see the point of having her come back, now that she's fulfilled her arc. I guess she and Doctor/River are just that popular with Moffat and the fans. How did he react to the ILU? I know, I know, it's pathetic that I'm so bothered by it. Forgive me. ;)

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jjpor October 2 2012, 20:38:32 UTC
It shows a certain degree of selfishness and self-absorption, I think, the idea that as long as they're together nothing and nobody else matters. Ditto the idea that the Doctor - a centuries old alien, lord of time and space, ffs - hasn't got the self-control and wisdom to just leave them to their seemingly very happy and fulfilling life on Earth and go off to seek pastures new, even though he's clearly worried sick about what might happen to them travelling with him. The Doctor didn't used to be that selfish, immature and generally drippy, did he?? And yet one suspects these are the values modern TV takes from our modern society. I don't think it's necessarily a deliberate storytelling choice, more like a depressing reflection of the zeitgeist ( ... )

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sidlj September 30 2012, 02:28:12 UTC
I'm assuming Amy and Rory weren't confined to an apartment for the rest of their days after the "battery farm" got paradoxed. She was writing hard boiled detective fiction and getting it published for gawd's sake...

River actually wrote the book, though, and sent it to Amy to be published. And told her to add an afterword. I'm confused on just how River sent her manuscript to Amy, though. How would she have an address for her? Um, maybe old city directories?

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jjpor October 2 2012, 19:20:19 UTC
Ah, thanks for the correction. But still, if she can get the book published, she can't be confined to the Weeping Angel equivalent of McDonalds, can she? ;D I'd imagine if they were living under their real names, and knowing when and where they were buried, River would be able to work out something using city records etc. She seems the resourceful sort.

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persiflage_1 September 30 2012, 06:01:09 UTC
I hate the fact that companions never seem to get just ONE exit these days.

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jjpor October 2 2012, 19:18:30 UTC
Oh no, of course not. In fact, I'm half-expecting to see the Ponds again, come the 50th anniversary and/or when Eleven finally shuffles off (I understand he's contracted until 2014, but I still maintain the 50th anniversary story would represent an apt moment for a fresh start).

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persiflage_1 October 2 2012, 19:54:52 UTC
Well, I guess we'll see - in due course.

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jjpor October 2 2012, 20:27:51 UTC
Oh, no doubt. ;)

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