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Apr 01, 2007 15:32

The God Debate
At the Summit: On a cloudy California day, the atheist Sam Harris sat down with the Christian pastor Rick Warren to hash out Life's Biggest Question-Is God real? A NEWSWEEK exclusive.


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veronica_rich April 1 2007, 19:44:52 UTC
WARREN: I think your books are quite angry.

HARRIS: I would put it at impatient rather than angry.

So very WORD on this. I haven't read Mr. Harris's book, but I understand enough about debate and arguing at this point in life, and I've been on both the majority and minority side of arguments, to understand his comment here. If you're in the majority of something that has been accepted for a long time as truth, or even just OK, it puzzles you why there's anyone who DOESN'T see it. And their insistence with their reasons and explanations in the face of your "truth" can seem angry or shrill or dogmatic - when, in fact, they wouldn't have to keep going on and on and on and on if they weren't fighting uphill against widely-accepted notions that people don't often question that closely.

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Wooooo! slothel April 1 2007, 21:05:39 UTC
When we die, if he's right, I've lost nothing. If I'm right, he's lost everything. I'm not willing to make that gamble.

Fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, fear, FEAR! BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE OR SUFFER!

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Re: Wooooo! veronica_rich April 2 2007, 00:43:15 UTC
That's pretty much always been my mother's thought on the subject: That you lose nothing by being a believer. (Except, as I like to reply, your integrity and your opinion of yourself if you're not sure what to believe IN.)

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phoenix_alpha April 2 2007, 01:00:52 UTC
"Speak a lie long enough and the truth shall be brought forth from the loins of the lie for the People shall hear only the lie and say that it is truth."
--R Elland

Make of that what ye will.
Truth or lie does it matter a generation after the lie or truth is first told?

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dancewithoutme April 2 2007, 01:42:35 UTC
I still do not fully comprehend why one thinks a majority of atheists are angry. Perhaps it is because Rick Warren, and many fundamentalists, are the most passive-aggressive individuals in American society.

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misanthropicsob April 2 2007, 09:20:40 UTC
Maybe its terms like "ludicrous obscinity."

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dancewithoutme April 2 2007, 18:13:55 UTC
Thanks for proving my point and extending it to fundamentalist agnosticists!

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This exchange is awesome! salenelle April 2 2007, 03:40:07 UTC
"How would the ideal world work, in the Sam Harris view ( ... )

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