Comments | jesidres: This is why we can't have nice things.

jesidres

This is why we can't have nice things.

Jan 29, 2009 21:36

You've seen the image- it's been hard to ignore throughout the election and beyond November 4th. But even as it becomes the image of a presidency, there's a dark side to the famous "Hope" Obama image, and the artist responsible, Shepard Fairey.

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rant, art

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roxyk630 January 30 2009, 03:29:51 UTC

This is very very normal. VERY normal ( ... )

roxyk630 January 30 2009, 03:31:16 UTC

This also comes down to the "Art Bill" that was recently passed. If the owner of a piece cannot be found public use... etc. Bullshit.

jesidres January 30 2009, 03:37:29 UTC

Unfortunately for mr. Fairey, the artist (The photographer) was still readily found, and is now saying despite Fairey's claims otherwise, they were contacted that by the company that their photo was the source. Fairey's denying it now in hopes of not having to pay royalty fees.

And I have to say I was lucky- my Graphic Design classes were taught by a man who was very much for demanding original work- someone tried to submit final part of their corporate project a design they'd scanned in from a book- and they had to redo the project. But it's just SAD.

You're just too cool for that, Roxy :D

roxyk630 January 30 2009, 04:14:26 UTC

Yeah, I saw that (post commenting) XD; It makes me laugh... because... that bill, ugh. I oppose it... but it's nice to see it can still come back to bite someone in the ass. Of course he's denying it! Fairey would loose SO MUCH over it! His career would be in the can because really, who wants to work with someone who violates copyright? I hate doing it for T-shirts but... honestly? No one's profiting off of that. XD; And 9 times out of 10 if I get to do original art? I draw it XD ( ... )

principia January 30 2009, 05:46:28 UTC

Being a graphic designer myself (and in the most literal sense of the profession; I cannot actually draw), I'd assumed that this was a traced image from a photograph, as many modern-era painters (such as Patrick Nagel) do for their references versus having a live model sit in their studio day-in, day-out.

Did I think he'd be a big enough dumbass/jerk to steal a professional news photographer's shot and then sneak away, thinking he could get away without permission, credit, or payment? No.

And the various organizations/companies that have profited from the use of this image owe money to the photographers as well. If you profited, you pay. It's as simple as that.

I wouldn't even characterize this as particularly transformative, because let's be honest: you could get a similar effect by hitting 'Posterize' in Photoshop and just cleaning up the image. It's not even ironic repurposing.

ivydoor January 30 2009, 17:41:06 UTC

Huh. And here I was considering actually using my DA account for my photography. I'm not sure I have the energy to deal with asshats like that.

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