Must Read: Parenting for a Peaceful World

Dec 11, 2009 16:57

I'm reading Parenting For A Peaceful World right now, and it's a fascinating read. It starts by tracing the history of human childhood through the ages, and the picture is not only unpleasant; it's horrific. The author states that prior to the 20th century, there is NO evidence that any child, anywhere, escaped what we would today call severe ( Read more... )

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teleute December 12 2009, 01:51:56 UTC
I don't have time to watch the video, and if I don't post I'll forget to, so if this is answered in the vid, please just point me there ;-) When you say "abuse" does the author mean the deliberate "I'm going to hurt this other person" kind of abuse or the "I can see my child is starving and there is nothing I can do about it" kind? I find it hard to believe that children were universally subject to parents deliberately trying to hurt them, if that's what he's arging.

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jenn_unplugged December 12 2009, 02:05:21 UTC
Abuse means things you would go to jail for today. Like daily beatings, widespread sexual abuse, you name it. For example, it was widely-believed until the 19th century that children are born immoral and evil, and that if their parents didn't beat them regularly, they would never become "good" people. Child sexual abuse wasn't considered something harmful to the child until this century -- it was just a sexual perversion on the part of the adult (and even that only came about at the insistence of the church) Girls as young as 3 were burned at the stake in medieval times for "seducing" adult men. In medieval times, it was common to see dead babies in the gutters of cities. People just abandoned them.

It goes on and on, and on. It's hard to imagine, but the historical evidence is abundant. :-P

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aschmidt87 December 12 2009, 05:20:05 UTC
So if I'm correct I believe it was you that I first heard about Alfie Kohn's "Unconditional Parenting". And I loved it. So given that I think we would probably have similar interests on parenting books. Soo, one question...when you say "in the AP community we claim we're parenting the way humans were meant to be parented...little evidence human children were ever parented this way..." what do you mean by this? According to this book do we have it all wrong? I just think AP is the way things should be because of the closeness and love involved. Does this make sense?

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jenn_unplugged December 12 2009, 15:26:57 UTC
The author is very pro-AP, because the research on infant and child development supports it so very clearly. His analysis of the impact of AP on children shows that on a large-scale level it would have a tremendous impact on society, and in fact, already has. Some of the most peaceful, least violence-ridden, most strongly democratic countries in the world (and sadly, the US is not amongst them) are countries that have made corporal punishment illegal, who have comprehensive programs to support breastfeeding and year-long maternity leaves, etc ( ... )

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sassywoman December 12 2009, 05:36:07 UTC
I think I should start with Alfie Kohn before reading this. Thoughts?

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jenn_unplugged December 15 2009, 16:42:25 UTC
I think you could go either way. PPW gives a great historical perspective, supported by a broad base of research, and you might prefer that. Kohn's book is definitely perspective-shifting, and if you start with that PPW would then fill in more of the gaps Kohn blasts in your thinking about parenting.

Bear in mind that both books are not really parenting books so much as books about the philosophy of parenting. You're academically-oriented, so you'll probably like that as I did, but some people seem frustrated that Kohn in particular is not very practically-oriented.

I can't wait to hear what you think!

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sassywoman December 16 2009, 02:33:42 UTC
I think I"ll start with Kohn based on your comments. Which book should I start with (assuming there is more then one on parenting)?

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jenn_unplugged December 16 2009, 04:12:58 UTC
Unconditional Parenting is the book I would recommend. He also has lots of articles on his web page that are in the same vein. He writes about both parenting and education (he is a former elementary school teacher), and I use some of his teaching articles in my courses.

Happy reading!

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jedirita December 14 2009, 16:13:28 UTC
Hmm. Somehow that's one of the "peaceful parenting" books I have NOT read. I'll have to read it, though ( ... )

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jenn_unplugged December 15 2009, 16:45:35 UTC
Ooh, I've read a book you haven't? ;-)

I'm really loving reading about the history and philosophy of parenting practices, and the idea that they have such huge implications for society is really intriguing to me. It is pushing me to question a lot of my basic beliefs in so many ways, and heh, I always enjoy that!

Next on my list is Nurture Shock. Have you read that one? The Amazon reviews indicate it has an amazing chapter on teaching kids about race.

Any other books along these lines you would recommend?

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jedirita January 9 2010, 04:42:05 UTC
Oooh, that one sounds cool, too!

Lordy, parenting books are like fanfic - there's too much stuff out there to read it all!

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faithandworks December 23 2009, 22:35:15 UTC
Definitely going to check this out. Thanks for the rec :)

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