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[jd_243]

It's amazing how much we hold on to our claims and rights as individuals while at the same time worry and complain about being alone.

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[smalltoast]

people go with what will give them the most at the particular time. This is a group based system with individual recognition.

anyways what you been doing? you haven't been around much, lots of work?

-Rick

[jd_243]

we live in a system where the individual comes before society, but the consequence is that it's at the expense of connection with others which results in a lack of belonging and identity. In a sense we isolate ourselves because we know no better than to put ourselves first. There's individual recognition but a sense of "group" or society has deteriorated - and are better for it?

Not too much work actually, I'm back at uni but only working 1 day a week (apart from the youth mentoring i do) but uni keeps me pretty busy, spending time with my mates and my girlfriend (over 3 months now which is cool), I've been good though, i'm enjoying life! how about yourself mate? how's school going? doing alright? how's everything else? how's the music going?

[sar_84]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm arent we a selfish bunch of human beings..........

[superwench]

individuality has nothing to do with lonliness

[jd_243]

I disagree, but I'm not saying there is anything wrong with a sense of self or the individual. Individuality gives rise to the most beautiful and creative expression of what it truly is to live. I'm certainly not suggesting that we be clones. However if we totally disregard a sense of "we" or "us" then isolation and loneliness is an apparent consequence. I think we've taken our individual rights too far (modern society tells us that the individual comes before society, rather than society before the individual), to such an extent that we forfeit virtually all sense of significant membership or belonging. Imagine feeling patriotic about your country and the prime minister. Imagine having a strong sense of community, knowing the name of Mr. so-and-so from the greengrocer, imagine if life was about cooperating rather than competing, imagine going to a lecture and rather than being surrounded by people (and still feeling lonely) that you knew these people and had an emotional tie with them. Even if you do develop emotional connections

dumb question

[deaddaisy911]

I have to wonder, what makes you think it is so amazing how much "we hold on to our claims and rights as individuals while at the same time worry and complain about being alone."? Or perhaps maybe it was merely... oh, hm... never realized that before. Interesting. It seems to me its just basic human nature, to want to be apart of something and yet at the same time begging to become a separate entity. Nobody wants to be a generalization or statistic; Nor does anyone want to be the odd man out. It seems we want to have our cake and eat it too. And it is quite entirely possible

[jd_243]

There just seems to be an incongruity about it all, that's all. I'll try and explain myself a bit better. Would you first agree with the understanding that we are all social beings? And that we have a need for emotional connection with others? When we have a sense of belonging it implies that we somehow have an emotional connection with other people, a sense of community. Within society we occupy statuses and perform roles. We gain our identity in relation to other statuses and roles. A large part of our identity formation involves learning who you are in relation to others or to put it another way, our concept of self comes from our interactions with others. An interesting point to think about is that we are likely to see ourselves through the eyes of those who are most important to us, to which there are important implications. It's quite often an unconscious thing, but identity is a critical aspect of groupness. We belong to several groups which help define our identity. If you remove yourself from a group not only are you taking

[deaddaisy911]

wow.. you explain things very well. It's nice to read what you have to say. -always a bonus when its actually something intelligent and interesting. I either found it in a random search or randomly going through multiple persons journals.

[jd_243]

cheers for that, I appreciate your comments and particularly your questions. I don't write very often, but feel free to add me if you like, I like checking out other peoples journals too :)

[deaddaisy911]

"I like checking out other peoples journals too :)" I'm not sure if you're referring to an interest in pursuing reading my lj or not but you can check it out if you want, if you haven't already. There isn't much worth reading in my opinion, though one is always biased against his or her own writing. I don't know about you but there are few original things anymore. I seem to cover the same old seemingly self-centered, bitter/angry/unhappy exception of a stereo-type. Too much information? Sometimes I talk too much; Lately there's not been much to say.