It's always the 'Ros might get the Jeyne Poole storyline' since she's the one having horrible experiences while being trained by LF, and since Jeyne Poole is nowhere it's not like there's someone else from the North to whom Theon has any sort of emotional attachment that they can use for his adwd stuff. But there's the part where no one could pass Ros off for Arya, so. I just hope I'm wrong.
I guess she could work for Sansa, but it still makes not much sense plot-wise. :/ And yeah, word on that - I liked the whole parallel between original Sansa and Jeyne both ending up there :/ Though if they really do try to pass Ros for Sansa then I really need to see how they think to pull it off. ;)
Though tbh my main worry about it, regardless of the rest, is that if Ros becomes Jeyne they cheapen half of what was going on with Theon in that part and I'm not sure I can be much okay with that. I wrote someone a novel about it in a comment below, but it's mostly that when Theon saves Jeyne he gets the (partially) redemptive gesture because for someone like him it's a completely selfless thing to do as they knew each other but never had much of a relationship at all and surely they didn't have sex. It's one of the few points you can use to argue with people who still hate him after ADWD and are like 'yeah well he got through some well-deserved shit (???) and he's still the same stupid self-centered asshole that he was before deep down
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Shortly: if it turns out that it was ~Jeyne~ in disguise and it goes the way it's supposed to then fine, if they're changing that part completely...uuuuuuh. I won't like it. I suspect it was Jeyne in disguise. This thing is too important to change it completely. I could imagine that he'll marry her, because she's fierce and sassy and not because of that "Oops, she comforted me with her ladyparts, ergo a marriage is in order, because it's the ~honourable thing to do" thing... which would destroy the neat analogy of Robb and Ned the honourable idiots, but it might be more fitting for Show!Robb. We'll see!
Re: Ros the Only Whore... yeah, I don't know either. What's your theory? The whole scene was a bit... eh. I don't even have a problem with all the gracious sex scenes, but this scene was disturbing. Joffrey is a sociopath and an evil SOB, we know it. No need for that D:
ETA: I'm not nearly finished with ASOS yet, but I spoiled myself for the Red Wedding part.
My Ros theory... Eeh, it's spoilery so I'll be vague, but I think they could be giving her a storyline of a minor character that became major in Theon's storyline in adwd, except that it has a hole bigger than the grand canyon, so I hope I'm not right XD
I don't really care for the specifics re Jeyne as long as she's highborn. I can buy Robb liking her regardless but I just can't buy that he marries her when she's a no one and there are no other stakes at play. Mostly because he already gets the 'omg he's such an idiot and he sucks at politics' rep when the problem is that he's his dad's kid, not that he's an idiot. Lol sorry I'm defensive XDD ;)
Eeeh, they're rushing it too much. I mean, I'm following it because I read the book and I know the entire background but I can see why it would be confusing. :/
Agreed about Jeyne/the girl from Volantis. If it wasn't Jeyne that scene doesn't make sense, but if it was her it doesn't make sense either. I guess we'll just have to wait and see
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If they're trying to give Jeyne more of a personality I can wait and see, but as it is I'm withholding judgment. If she's from Volantis for real and Robb marries her at random I'll get homicidal tendencies - it'd become just a suicidal move, not an honorable suicidal one
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1. That. But from what he said he met her when he conquered her castle but she's apparently this oh so very lovely gentle thing, not a sassy pro nursemaid XD that said since she didn't have much of a personality I get why they'd try to spice it up.I just need her to be JEYNE WESTERLING, not who-knows-the-name from Volantis
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1. Yeah. Though a big part of her... personality was that she was all meek and kind. I dunno. I was very o_O during that scene.
7. Hopefully they won't have to show it again b/c hey we already know what that is now!
13. Oooooh, I see where you're going with this. I don't recall if they mentioned Jeyne Poole much last season either... but I think your theory is actually very sound and highly likely. Crap. Though I feel sort of bad saying that all the whores look pretty much the same to me, so I hadn't actually noticed it was Ros in all those scenes! But she's WAY too old to pose as Arya. I mean Jeyne was only just Sansa's age, so that's at least plausible... I don't like that either, if that's where they're going with this :(
I get that you can't carry on for long with a character that is only gentle and meek and eager, even though I liked her being like that. :/ Idk my only major quibble would be if they don't make her highborn and they go for the doomed love story where he marries a lowborn girl, but seriously, Robb isn't a total idiot and I can get that he'd marry her for honor reasons, but not for OMG I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU reasons. He's NED'S son dammit, if he fucks himself over it has to be for honor
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It's always the 'Ros might get the Jeyne Poole storyline' since she's the one having horrible experiences while being trained by LF, and since Jeyne Poole is nowhere it's not like there's someone else from the North to whom Theon has any sort of emotional attachment that they can use for his adwd stuff. But there's the part where no one could pass Ros off for Arya, so. I just hope I'm wrong.
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Though tbh my main worry about it, regardless of the rest, is that if Ros becomes Jeyne they cheapen half of what was going on with Theon in that part and I'm not sure I can be much okay with that. I wrote someone a novel about it in a comment below, but it's mostly that when Theon saves Jeyne he gets the (partially) redemptive gesture because for someone like him it's a completely selfless thing to do as they knew each other but never had much of a relationship at all and surely they didn't have sex. It's one of the few points you can use to argue with people who still hate him after ADWD and are like 'yeah well he got through some well-deserved shit (???) and he's still the same stupid self-centered asshole that he was before deep down ( ... )
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I suspect it was Jeyne in disguise. This thing is too important to change it completely. I could imagine that he'll marry her, because she's fierce and sassy and not because of that "Oops, she comforted me with her ladyparts, ergo a marriage is in order, because it's the ~honourable thing to do" thing... which would destroy the neat analogy of Robb and Ned the honourable idiots, but it might be more fitting for Show!Robb. We'll see!
Re: Ros the Only Whore... yeah, I don't know either. What's your theory? The whole scene was a bit... eh. I don't even have a problem with all the gracious sex scenes, but this scene was disturbing. Joffrey is a sociopath and an evil SOB, we know it. No need for that D:
ETA: I'm not nearly finished with ASOS yet, but I spoiled myself for the Red Wedding part.
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I don't really care for the specifics re Jeyne as long as she's highborn. I can buy Robb liking her regardless but I just can't buy that he marries her when she's a no one and there are no other stakes at play. Mostly because he already gets the 'omg he's such an idiot and he sucks at politics' rep when the problem is that he's his dad's kid, not that he's an idiot. Lol sorry I'm defensive XDD ;)
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6. LOL. I know, right?
7. My thoughts EXACTLY! From now on, shows are going to lost points for showing childbirth. Of any kind.
13. What? WHAT? TELL MEEEEEEE!!!
14. Dany seems to have dialed back the crazy just a touch this season... I'm sure she'll go nuts soon.
15. Fewer gratuitous whore scenes would be good, HBO, thanks.
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7. Hopefully they won't have to show it again b/c hey we already know what that is now!
13. Oooooh, I see where you're going with this. I don't recall if they mentioned Jeyne Poole much last season either... but I think your theory is actually very sound and highly likely. Crap. Though I feel sort of bad saying that all the whores look pretty much the same to me, so I hadn't actually noticed it was Ros in all those scenes! But she's WAY too old to pose as Arya. I mean Jeyne was only just Sansa's age, so that's at least plausible... I don't like that either, if that's where they're going with this :(
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