i am a pacifist, and if anyone has a problem with that, they can meet me outside

[ivy_chan]

  Shocking news, folks. Christians are NOT the only perpetrators in the homophobia epidemic. No, seriously. I know, I was shocked, too. They are also not the source of every kind of right-winged zealous insanity.

Christians are not the source of all evil. Christianity is not the only religion used as a weapon and a reason to remain willfully and

Comments

[darcenciel]

x_x ugh yes. It makes me sick too to hear stuff like that.

[ivy_chan]

I mean, it's like people who hate racist people by hating on the race of the perpetrators. Way to miss the point!

[pimpypantsmcgee]

I get annoyed when people generalize about religious groups, as well. The Hezbollah and Al Qaeda have the support they do now because they came in and took care of people when no one else would.

However, I think all religion is ridiculous. Not the practitioners (a lot of them, in many cases), but the religions themselves. I'd like to think we've moved beyond peoples' need for them. You get nutjob retards that come in, take it too seriously, make shit up, and lead groups of like-minded, hate-filled assholes to battle against regular, normal folks.

And sometimes you get people who take things too literally when it serves them, like Fred Phelps. Fred, the bible also says that if your daughter is disobedient, you can sell her into slavery, and it even says what price you should get for her. But I don't see you out sellin' your kids when they might go against your wishes. I'm only seeing you out toting your God Hates Fags agenda.

Religions are fucking obsolete. What we need now are ideas and solutions.

[ivy_chan]

I wouldn't say religions are obsolete. Religious rule, certainly, but saying religions are obsolete is like saying morality and spirituality of any kind is obsolete. Morality doesn't necessarily govern, and it's not objective, but I think it's necessary for people to live happily with each other. Religion is just a person's point of view on how the spiritual side of life works and defines a good part of their moral code. It does serve a purpose, even today. The misuse of religion is something else altogether.

Religion is not inherently ridiculous, either: it's like any other human social structure. Any kind of group is open to corruption just by virtue of being made up by human beings. Government, schools systems, religion, professions...it's the nutjobs we should focus on hating, not whatever group they use as tools to further their ambitions and insanity.

[pimpypantsmcgee]

I must disagree with you, especially with your statement that saying that religions are obsolete is like saying morality and spirituality of any kind is obsolete. I believe that someone can have spirituality independent from a religion, and I absolutely believe that morality can and should exist independently from religion

[ivy_chan]

Okay, you're not understanding the comparison. Morality and spirituality exist outside of religion, but their intangibility allows me to make a comparison. I'm saying that stating religion is obsolete is LIKE saying morality is obsolete, not that morality and religion are inseparable. Religion is always up to interpretation? So is the very basis of human morality. Good and evil, right and wrong, are nearly always subjective ideas. These ideas exist OUTSIDE of religion, but they are just as illogical as the morality and spirituality of a religion

[lvsinsanity]

I agree with Ivy on this... personally? I'm agnostic, but I lean more towards Paganism, because I enjoy it's belief system. I live with someone who actually adheres more towards an Egyptian Gods belief, my mother is Roman Catholic, and my Father was Baptist, and my mother and I use to live with an Atheist

[lvsinsanity]

OH! Also..in response the anon poster... be careful of saying Leaders don't teach intolerance.

There will always be crack cults... so there are SOME who do..but they are far and very few in between.