Go Go 囲碁! Computers are stupid, but they don't judge

Jul 15, 2012 20:24

I was not feeling well today, so I didn't go to the go club.

I have long avoided playing computer games because they are time sinks, and computer go proves to be as addictive as any other game. I am still not playing human players online as often as I should, but I am definitely improving against MFOG.

Progress at 4 months )

igo

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kith_koby July 16 2012, 06:40:18 UTC
I think this is true for most computer games. There appears to be a distinct lack of long-term planning.
There have only been two computer games I ever found challenging, and even these were only when set on a high level: Chess and epic strategy games like Total War or Crusader Kings II. The former is obvious; the latter may be my fault for lack of experience, or because of how complicated the game is, so that even I cannot really look ahead enough.

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tealterror0 July 16 2012, 16:48:53 UTC
Both of the games you cite are insanely complicated, so that probably has more to do with it. I think the problem is that it takes a shitton of work to make a good AI, and most game developers are lazy so they just give the computer cheap advantages instead.

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kith_koby July 16 2012, 19:29:48 UTC
Yeah, I think it's a combination of both factors, but primarily how complicated the game is. The fact is, even with a great deal of experience, it's still insanely hard to survive/win in TW and CKII.
I have to wonder though, is it that Go is so much more complicated than Chess so it takes too much or effort to make a good AI, or is it simply that no one's bothered trying making a really good AI for Go.

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tealterror0 July 16 2012, 22:00:23 UTC
It's the former. Mostly because Go is a 19x19 board, while Chess is 8x8, so there are many many more possible game states.

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shinygobonkers July 16 2012, 07:30:16 UTC
yay for tangible improvement :]

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