... Though retracing the particular physics necessary for such a base level shift in genetics--and it must go to the quantum level to permeate all the physiological changes necessary to be that convincing--this would be something
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[Scream, flail and fumble with the comm: YOU'RE A GHOST, GRIM!!! YOU ARE DEAD. CLINICALLY DEAD!
Staaaaaaaaaaare. You're not leaving.]
Ah...
You...
This...
PROFESSOR GRIM, I AM SO SORRY, SO SO SO SO SORRY!!!! [Cue the waterworks.] Oh, gods, oh, gods is it really you? Are you really...? Are you? I don't even... Oh, it's been... this... I... can't even.. I don't... [SOB!] Grim...
Ma'am. The Cetra and the Lifestream itself is evidence enough of the existence of souls, it would be a futile experiment and simply re-confirm what is already known about the world as a whole.
[Does this child look eerily familiar? Like he's your son but with Hojo's forehead and condescending tone?]
The Cetra and the Lifestream, once more, are only just now becoming consistently measurable as our technology improves, and the same basic principles of consciousness are not yet known, unequivocally to apply to humans.
The Lifestream is the collective consciousness of the planet and everyone and everything that has, will and does exist on it. It fills a person when they are born and is returned when they die.
That's what the books in Hojo's office say anyway.
[He blinks. You're a scientist how do you not know who he is?!]
Yes, there is a willful, overriding consciousness to the planet, and the Lifestream is its acting source for both energy and matter, but "energy" and "spirit," I theorize, are differing from what defines "soul."
Have a Hojo at 27 :DmoralmisconductSeptember 11 2010, 03:49:18 UTC
This could bleed into the field of psychology, Doctor, and psychology is not your forte. [A sneer. A friendly one. Yes, only you could interpret the friendliness in that sneer, we suspect.]
But, step back from the intricacies a bit - you do have a habit of getting ahead of yourself, don't you? I believe what you're referring to as the soul has already been scientifically established. After all, what is the Lifestream, but a collection of souls? Granted, the Lifestream is different from all other known physical substances, but it can be gathered, can be stored, and can be manipulated. It is physical in itself, and can exist outside a body, whether that body be human, animal, domestic houseplant, etcetera.
But, consciousness is a seperate matter. Consciousness is the interaction of soul-matter, Lifestream, with the body, the host of the soul at the time. Consciousness is not, as yet, a measurable substance. You could say that consciousness is one manifestation of the soul, belonging to the soul, but the two are entirely seperate.
Oh, you always say you never pay attention to lectures, but then you repeat them verbatim when you feel like showing off! Don't think I never noticed.
And, anyway, no no, you are both wrong on this account. What we've proved as the "soul" is the conglomerate life energy born from, destined to returned to, and, throughout our life, attached to the Lifestream itself, the entity Gaia. But soul is a separate component, I swear! Maybe... maybe it is only a projection of "soul matter" as you say, that exists for just a short time, but I have trouble believing that our person, our existence as the individual, with all its complexities, was made to exist like a May fly for this blink of a span, only to be forever melded back into the abyss. What purpose does it serve? None.
I propose that the existence of the "I" is both distinct and separate, yet paradoxically intertwined with the spiritual and physical substance that makes up the bodies we interact with on Gaia, meaning consciousness and the soul are one, soul and spirit are the
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[One eye squints, and his nose wrinkles in what is an exaggerated dubious expression. Hojo pushes his huge, heavy glasses further up his nose. One of these days he should really upgrade to a lighter pair.]
That's a very obscure theory. I don't see how you could ever make it testable, but hey. Maybe one day you'll write it into a thesis and maybe one day I'll read it.
[She sure knows how to rub his ego the right way. He's trying not to grin too hard, but it's difficult.] Of course you've missed me - who else here is a match for your intellect, hmm? I've been...ah, all over the place, really. [Smirks] The scientific equivalent of a superhero, you could say.
OMG, MAKE HIM STOP BEING CUTE! D8intimacyphobicSeptember 11 2010, 04:30:14 UTC
[She watches him with a smile.] Like you'd ever read my work..
[There's a girlish~ giggle~ and she flutters a hand over her mouth, blushing.] And here it seems like just last week you were telling me how you were the scientific equivalent of a "rock star." Now we've upgraded to superhero? Will you be a Weapon next?
Oh, darling, come and tell me stories of your great adventures: I'm bored with the stale angst of old men and their self-righteousness and I want to smile again--you know how adept you are at making me smile...
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Yes, yes, but only in the case of xenoformic projections whose full and primary existence was directly through the Lifestream and not fil... tered...
... ... ... [Hold up now, what? ... Grim? GRIM!!!! But, wait... No... no, no, no... That can't... WHAT THE HELL?] ... ...
Professor... Valentine?
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Staaaaaaaaaaare. You're not leaving.]
Ah...
You...
This...
PROFESSOR GRIM, I AM SO SORRY, SO SO SO SO SORRY!!!! [Cue the waterworks.] Oh, gods, oh, gods is it really you? Are you really...? Are you? I don't even... Oh, it's been... this... I... can't even.. I don't... [SOB!] Grim...
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[Does this child look eerily familiar? Like he's your son but with Hojo's forehead and condescending tone?]
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[Squint and stare.... whoaaaaaaaaaa, what?]
... and who are you, little boy?
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That's what the books in Hojo's office say anyway.
[He blinks. You're a scientist how do you not know who he is?!]
I'm Sephiroth Ma'am. Are we doing a test?
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... Wait... Hojo's... You're...
... Sephiroth?
No, we're... we're... doing... a...
[She's beginning to cry.]
I hope this isn't a test.
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God? Which one? Or do you mean Goddess?
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But, step back from the intricacies a bit - you do have a habit of getting ahead of yourself, don't you? I believe what you're referring to as the soul has already been scientifically established. After all, what is the Lifestream, but a collection of souls? Granted, the Lifestream is different from all other known physical substances, but it can be gathered, can be stored, and can be manipulated. It is physical in itself, and can exist outside a body, whether that body be human, animal, domestic houseplant, etcetera.
But, consciousness is a seperate matter. Consciousness is the interaction of soul-matter, Lifestream, with the body, the host of the soul at the time. Consciousness is not, as yet, a measurable substance. You could say that consciousness is one manifestation of the soul, belonging to the soul, but the two are entirely seperate.
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And, anyway, no no, you are both wrong on this account. What we've proved as the "soul" is the conglomerate life energy born from, destined to returned to, and, throughout our life, attached to the Lifestream itself, the entity Gaia. But soul is a separate component, I swear! Maybe... maybe it is only a projection of "soul matter" as you say, that exists for just a short time, but I have trouble believing that our person, our existence as the individual, with all its complexities, was made to exist like a May fly for this blink of a span, only to be forever melded back into the abyss. What purpose does it serve? None.
I propose that the existence of the "I" is both distinct and separate, yet paradoxically intertwined with the spiritual and physical substance that makes up the bodies we interact with on Gaia, meaning consciousness and the soul are one, soul and spirit are the ( ... )
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That's a very obscure theory. I don't see how you could ever make it testable, but hey. Maybe one day you'll write it into a thesis and maybe one day I'll read it.
[She sure knows how to rub his ego the right way. He's trying not to grin too hard, but it's difficult.] Of course you've missed me - who else here is a match for your intellect, hmm? I've been...ah, all over the place, really. [Smirks] The scientific equivalent of a superhero, you could say.
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[There's a girlish~ giggle~ and she flutters a hand over her mouth, blushing.] And here it seems like just last week you were telling me how you were the scientific equivalent of a "rock star." Now we've upgraded to superhero? Will you be a Weapon next?
Oh, darling, come and tell me stories of your great adventures: I'm bored with the stale angst of old men and their self-righteousness and I want to smile again--you know how adept you are at making me smile...
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