Thought I'd surprise you with a Doctor Who post

May 14, 2011 18:56

Warning: I didn't love it as much as you did. (But this is about taste, not criticisms).

Spoilers, sweetie. )

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mcamy May 15 2011, 02:13:09 UTC
It is a taste thing, for certain. But I was so glad to have an episode where we learned something about The Doctor, where we saw what he was thinking and feeling, where he was connected to what has gone before in a real way. They did it differently than Ten's emotional outpourings, which is as it should be, but it still made me cry and be happy all at the same time, and that's not happened with Eleven until now.

I'm wondering if the eye-patch lady is part of the pregnancy thing or what. Very interesting....

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idlerat May 15 2011, 02:18:22 UTC
That's good to hear, Amy, and true. God I don't miss Ten, personally. But I definitely wasn't crying - maybe it's because the whole continuous arc of the show doesn't feel whole to me. I've lost a lot of the past, and even at the level of the individual episode it often doesn't feel to me like one thing, but like bits of different things glued together. It certainly doesn't feel like the same show I loved in the 70s (which did feel more unified), though there are moments when it recalls or references that.

The bottom line for me on this ep is that I find Gaiman's self-love hard to stomach, and somehow it came through to me in this.

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mcamy May 15 2011, 02:31:33 UTC
Eleven's tenure so far has felt really disjointed, I agree. I have read other old school Who fans say that it's not the same show since it was rebooted--not really. I've watched some of One, Two, Three, and Four, all since I started watching Nine, and I would agree. It was more mad adventures with a bloke in a blue box. None of this naval gazing. We have different tastes about it, certainly, but I can see what you mean, definitely.

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idlerat May 15 2011, 02:40:14 UTC
Hm, I may have conveyed my tastes wrong - I've actually loved the show since the advent of Eleven and Moffat. I don't think it's been more disjointed than it was under Russell T, but rather that since the reboot it has felt disjointed. I don't think it's the same show, but it couldn't be, and I wouldn't want it to be. Though I am bothered sometimes by the weird mix of maudlin, comic, overly dramatic (less of a problem since Moffat), and other bits.

Still, that wasn't my problem with this episode. My problem with this episode was strictly my distaste for Gaiman. Falling in love with stars and boxes - a big old W on my forehead. It was good, I liked it, but I felt Gaiman's presence throughout, and it's really almost just a distaste for him personally. He's so full of himself.

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la_sonnambula May 15 2011, 02:52:00 UTC
Really liked her tits.

:D Love how that's there amidst the sorta serious discussion. Whose tits though?

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idlerat May 15 2011, 03:03:14 UTC
Well the whole episode revolved around a female one-off character - I could explain, but I'm not even sure it would make sense. Nice rack, though! :D

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eponis May 24 2011, 18:57:03 UTC
Watched this episode belatedly, and really enjoyed reading the discussion in this post!

Where did Eyepatch Lady appear in this episode? I honestly don't remember her. Unless you're lumping in Amy's hallucinations about Rory.

(Speaking of those hallucinations, the "HATE AMY" graffiti was weirdly similar to the "GET OUT" graffiti in the orphanage. I think it's unlikely (though possible?) that the Silence have been on the TARDIS all this time; perhaps then crazy!guy was right about the "GET OUT" being written by the children?)

The personification didn't bug me too much, partly because she was so very non-human. But I completely agree about the "twee antique-y" setting -- Victorian grunge, maybe? -- and how overused it is. The fact that the planet is a graveyard of TARDISes doesn't give any reason for its inhabitants to wear 19th-century human clothing.

(Can I blame this on Gaiman marrying Amanda Palmer? It's like the collision of two giant goth-y Victorian-y self-obsessed ego planets! )

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idlerat May 24 2011, 19:39:59 UTC
lolz

No, I didn't see eyepatch lady in this one - did I say I did? I do think Amy's hallucinations seemed - dunno, possibly connected

Must fly right now but will try to return to this cool comment!

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