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[humanfemale]

The majority of my experiences with the random dungeon system have been pretty unremarkable. Whether I'm healing or tanking, I ridiculously outgear the content and the majority of my group ridiculously outgears me. If I'm healing, this leads to me casting the odd PW:S and POM while reading a magazine with the other hand and occasionally glancing at

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[mageic]

excellent post.

I think this is why in most PUG's I don't pay much if any attention to what is going on in the chat. I will usuallly say hi, and at the end I'll say thanks, but the rest of the time, I just go with the flow and let it all roll over me. It helps that as a dps I'm not the main focus of attention and it is usually the tank/healer that is getting the abuse.
Honestly I couldn't gear less about how well/poorly geared anyone else in the group is. If we can get through the instance no wipes, who cares?
I think the whole idea of rushing through as fast as possible is pretty crap these days as well. As most of the people who want to go go go are only running the 1 random for the frost badges, they are so well geared that they don't need any of the loot/triumph badges. So what does it matter if the run takes 30 mins in total instead of 15. 15 mins less time to abuse people in chat?

[humanfemale]

Agreed! People should just chill =)

Although, there is one good reason for a rushed pace - and that's a rage tank.

Even In 5.4k gearscore tanking gear I am insanely rage starved in heroics content. I'm ragestarved in 10 man ToC for goodness sake. My offspec is resto, so I don't have the option to just equip some of my cat gear to get hit harder. The reason my runs as a tank tend to be hectic is that otherwise, I just can't get enough rage. I can only imagine that 6k bears really do need to take their pants off to get anywhere.

The other advantage to running to the next pack before the last is fully down of course is that I get to generate some threat before you guys catch up =)

If I spot that my healer is not very geared though, I tend to slow down and do things the careful way a lot more. I still remember trying to priest in blues, and really geared tanks stuck on fast forward made that pretty painful for me at times.

[mageic]

yeah I don't mind rushing through for a rage tank :)

I'm guessing that run the other night was very hard for you :) given how much ailith and I were doing :) I tried to stay on your target as much as I could, although I use an ability called sweeping strikes on the trash pulls, which gives me 5 hits on the target and one other near it I think.
(for the next five melee swings, all melee attacks hit both the target, and the enemy nearest to him as well. )
So that may explain if I was pulling threat off you (not sure if I did or was just close to it)

[humanfemale]

You boys are actually fine as long as you focus on the marked target. I've been trained very well by Ailith on how to hold against high DPS because he's just INSANE. Nerf DKs, IMO. Where it goes a bit pear shaped is if you're both on different targets and then he rips - I grab his target back and build up some threat, but during that time I'm building up less threat on your target - so you rip, and now I have to grab it back and do the little dance back and forth for the whole pull.

Then he complains to me that he can't follow my target because I swap around too much, duh!

Seething. Rage.

That's not actually specifically YOU in that example - any time I have a couple of high DPS who just start on whatever they tab targeted the dance is the same.

[mageic]

hehe, yeah thats understandable. I always focus the tank in any instance now but I struggle to change target if they change mid fight, so focused on my system and what I need to do :) need to watch what I'm doing more =)

[humanfemale]

That's why I tend to mark even in heroics. Then it's my fault if I get distracted and forget to monitor threat on skull =)