Is this a 'lol' or 'facepalm' moment?

[hukbillgoomba]

Cor blimey

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[metalkatt]

In USistan, if we have insurance, we either have a copay, which is a flat fee (usually $10-20), or coinsurance, which means you pay a percentage of the visit once your deductible is met--that is, if you have a $200 deductible, you have to pay the first 200 bucks worth of medical costs in the plan year before the insurance does anything. Then, if you have prescription insurance, you pay either a flat fee or a percentage of your medicine cost

[hukbillgoomba]

Wow. That's not a system I'd like to be a part of, frankly. :( Makes you wish that Public Option thing had happened, I guess.

NHS FOR LIFE. Quite literally, in many cases.

[metalkatt]

I only wish. P-Cat keeps telling me to move to Canuckistan, since I'm such a hardcore socialist.

and yeah, the system sucks, though if you don't have insurance, you're screwed.

[philosophercat]

That's right. *nod* My sister wants to flee as well.

[the_tabitha]

I'm confused. You've made your point about being against witch doctors, but are you also against naturopathic medicine? It's almost as if you have an aversion to any medicine that takes place anywhere outside of a traditional hospital or doctor's office, or really any alternative. Either that or I must not be paying enough attention to your rants on the subject... I guess it would be lovely if you were able to explain your position with more clarity.

[hukbillgoomba]

Considering that naturopathy lacks evidence to support its claims and that all tests done about it show it to be, like homoeopathy, at best a placebo and at worst a distraction from real help, of course I'm against it.
It's quite simple; if it WORKED it wouldn't be 'alternative', it would just be 'medicine'.
Clinical trials have so far failed to show any significant results to back up the absurd claims of these charlatans. They actively put people at risk; vulnerable people, sick people, people who need actual help. But these creeps would rather just take money from desperate people and encourage them to NOT seek real medical advice. How can you call this anything other than depraved and destructive (unless you have stronger words)?

[the_tabitha]

I'm sorry, but your view of naturopathic medicine is skewed. If you would have looked it up beforehand then perhaps you would see that it actually works within the bounds of real science, not 'magic'. Now, I don't know if the definition of 'naturopath' in the UK is different than the definition of the word in the States, but I do know that here it is simply the practise of medicine using more natural remedies. Nobody should have a problem with that. Here, read this: http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Naturopahty

Naturopathic medicine is seriously legitimate. If you still have problems with it, I could get my friend and her father into it, he's a naturopathic doctor.

[hukbillgoomba]

Then why have clinical trials failed to show that naturopathy has any measurable effect

[waddlededede]

Once upon a time there was a druid called Dennis. Dennis the Druid couldn't help but notice the high concentration of exceptionally stupid people in his neighbourhood and promptly recognised this as being an excellent resource to be tapped immediately. Thus Dennis the Druid opened his alternative medicine clinic. "The so-called doctors won't tell you about this one" he would say, as he handed his loyal customers concoctions made of nettles and cat's urine.
One by one, the stupid people of his town would die due to a lack of actual medication (and one due to an allergy to cat's urine), but his reputation remained strong on account of the excellent rapport he'd built with his loyal (stupid) customer base.
Years later, Dennis' great great grandson, upon inheriting the once highly profitable business of druidry, came to notice a dip in sales and realised that all the stupid people had, in fact, died out.
Quietly Dennis Jr. Jr. Jr. moved to the next town for the cycle to begin again.

Alternative medicine: Darwinism at work!

[hukbillgoomba]

Of course, investing in public education would avoid these problems. And also a ban on druids. XD