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hsifeng

Thoughts On a Saxon Princess…

Jun 20, 2008 12:20

This got really long...so I am inserting a cut for the sanity of those who do not wish to participate in my rambling thougth process....*grin*

( For you few...you lucky few...you band of insane clothing reenactors... )

garb, reenactment, saxon dress construction thoughts, research

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dravon June 20 2008, 20:34:18 UTC

Answering these sorts of questions is exactly why I want to make a wardrobe of mini versions for the 3' doll. I'll get to experiment with different ways of execution, without spending a ton for the full size versions. I know a doll doesn't move the way a person does, but it's a start.

hsifeng June 21 2008, 01:12:26 UTC

LOL!

If you can find a doll that is the same size as the big GI Joes, we could finally make a mate for Steve Moss' "Hansen Kline" doll. "Hansen Klein" has multiple trunks worth of clothing, a cow, a backplate and helm, multiple weapons, etc...

He needs a well dressed Frau!

Did I mention that Steve has an 'altar' box that he uses "Hansen Klein" to set up scenes of Saint's lives? CLASSIC!

dravon June 21 2008, 01:42:10 UTC

*chuckles* Nope. Haven't heard of Hansen before.

kass_rants June 20 2008, 20:35:15 UTC

You're awesome!

Wanna read something similiar I've been thinking about these gowns?

http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/tudor-elizabethan.php?s=&c=8&d=115&e=&f=&g=&a=230&w=2

I've tried the Brustfleck as a simple bust-cover. It doesn't work well. But if you wrap it around yourself and then pin the gown to it, it keeps the sleeves on your shoulders. And interestingly, I get that "bend" that you see in period portraits that makes it look like the sleeves are about to fall off but never do.

hsifeng June 21 2008, 01:09:51 UTC

Nice!

I would love to check out some of the other low-backed gown images that show the rear of the clothing to see just how deep the dip goes. If they only ever make it to the mid-ribcage then I can certainly see the Brusttuck in those images as being 'chest bands' of some sort!

I am really not convinced that my 'pieced' version would work or is truly documentable - but it makes more sense to me than the one piece version with that low back...

hsifeng June 21 2008, 01:17:59 UTC

Just noticed that the second image shows a thin 'neck shirt' paired with the thicker white sleeves...

bippimalin June 24 2008, 03:43:20 UTC

It's very interesting to read your theories and ideas, I have a few myself:
Could the lower golden bit on the first picture be a fancy brocade apron?
I'm hesitant to sew a brusttuch to a skirt, would it still be a brusttuch then? After all it means litterally boobcloth. They can be seen as more modern versions in southern swedish folk costumes, they never seem to be sewn to the clothes they are worn with but instead are pinned in.

hsifeng June 24 2008, 05:09:17 UTC

This is what I get for cutting the image so close to the figure I was interested in: I think the brocade you are looking at is actually the wide guard on the bottom of the red/maroon dress of the lady standing directly behind the woman doing the foot washing.

After some time mulling this over, I have come to a conclusion.

Sewing the bits of the dress together one step at a time (Brusttuck to shirt, stomacher to Brusttuck bottom, skirt to stomacher bottom) isn't any easier on the thin fabric of the shirts that we see covering the breast and upper backs we are looking at.

Which was where my theory launched from in the first place.

It's a bit of a hole in my boat. *grin*

On the other hand, it did launch another theory...

http://hsifeng.livejournal.com/20556.html#cutid1