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musesfool August 11 2005, 13:38:43 UTC
Here, we see that as much as he may disagree with Greyback's plans, he feels accepted into this group. Lupin does not seem happy about being a spy, but nevertheless he feels a connection to the other werewolves.

Huh. I didn't read it that way at all. I thought his bitterness was not only at being used as a spy, but at being shunned from wizarding society and then, on his attempt to infiltrate the werewolves, not fitting in there either.

I wouldn't be surprised if he were involved in some showdown with Greyback, but I imagine he may also have a confrontation with Peter Pettigrew, as the last two Marauders.

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melisus August 11 2005, 16:15:19 UTC
I agree. I believe Lupin will end up confronting Peter as one of the last Marauders and not Greyback.

And as much as the theory about Lupin siding with Greyback and Harry having to kill Lupin is an interesting one, I really don't see it happening because of what Rowling has created with Lupin. She's made him a kind man and a good guy to show that other side of the werewolf that others discriminate against. She would then be crossing out one of her very important anti-discrimination lessons if she had Lupin turn against Harry.

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musesfool August 11 2005, 18:48:14 UTC
Yeah, Remus's whole character is meant to inspire tolerance and to show what intolerance can do to someone's life. Having him switch sides at this late date seems... counter-intuitive.

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ten_of_swords August 11 2005, 21:57:51 UTC
What I was trying to say is that Lupin does feel that they're his equals. For the first time in his life, he has to live with the werewolves. It may make him more bitter towards them, or he perhaps will show sympathy.

I agree that he will probably show down with Peter Pettigrew.

Another interesting angle would be for Remus to let go of his humanity, and just go crazy on Greyback as a werewolf. However, he would lose a piece of his humanity or possibly die.

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10pmpacifictime August 11 2005, 16:36:15 UTC
I'm inclined to think that Rowling didn't name the characters Remus or Fenrir to go any deeper than the wolf connection and that Remus was a fairly benign figure, while Fenrir, as an instrument of Ragnarok, is bad.

Rowling generally uses her names as character notes rather than as indications of what will happen to that character.

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ten_of_swords August 11 2005, 21:55:18 UTC
Oops, tried to make an anonoymous post.

I just always thought it was interesting that JK chose Remus, and not Romulus as his name. I don't necessarily believe the theories, but just used the mythologys to create some new theories to provoke some thoughts.

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10pmpacifictime August 11 2005, 22:05:06 UTC
Personally I think she chose Remus because it is, in my opinion, a much nicer name and possibly that Romulus, having killed his brother, would imply a more violent temperament.

I have thought that since the mythological Remus died, it might possibly mean that the Harry Potter Remus will die, but the Remus/Tonks has reassured me that he's likely to live (frankly it's the only good thing that relationship has done).

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melisus August 12 2005, 01:01:56 UTC
On the contrary, the Lupin/Tonks relationship seemed rushed, merely enforcing my idea that Remus will meet a bad end. A rushed relationship would symbolize some sort of fleeting happiness before the end. That could mean that maybe Tonks will die, but my money always has been and still is on Remus.

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divinereverie August 11 2005, 18:18:52 UTC
Your theory is a bit of an interesting one, in the sense that I personally believe that Peter Pettigrew will kill Fenrir with his silver hand (or at least, he should) but it would be much nicer for me if he killed Fenrir protecting Harry instead of just on Voldemort's orders for a "betrayal."

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a good bit of research for us jemma_blackwell August 12 2005, 02:04:21 UTC
but dear, twice you said "Ministry" fight. Don't you mean "Hogwarts" fight? Don't feel badly, I still can't get over OOTP either.

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Re: a good bit of research for us ten_of_swords August 14 2005, 03:29:42 UTC
I didn't notice that, oops. I fixed it now. Thanks.

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hikari_cyhan August 12 2005, 14:12:00 UTC
Only one God, Týr, volunteered. Upon being bound, Fenrir tried to break free, but the more he struggled, the tighter the ribbon became. In anger, he bit off Týr's hand.

I could have sworn it was Thor who agreed to put his hand in Fenrir's mouth.

However, there is a possibility that Lupin would become a follower of Greyback, seeing as it is a group that accepts him. If Lupin was to join the werewolves, there is a possibility that he would be killed by another person who is connected to him: Harry Potter.

HIGHLY unlikely. Remus may consider them his fellows, but he has more emotional attatchments to wizardkind than to werewolves (Harry, Tonks, etc.).

All-in-all, though, some interesting points.

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ten_of_swords August 14 2005, 03:26:12 UTC
No, it was Tyr. I had my mythology book right beside me when writing it. :)

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