Deathly Hallows, Dissapointments, Plot Holes and More

[eroej_kab]

Deathly Hallows, Dissapointments, Plot Holes, House Elves and More

Deathly Hallows has consequences for most of those who survive in the WW. But none more so than the House Elves. So much was possible. So much was hoped for. But in the end......

This is a much revised version of a similar, now defunct, essay on these topics.
Spoilers abound within!

Comments

[madderbrad]

I agree so much, great essay. In particular I felt that the whole Deathly Hallows gimmick was overly contrived, needlessly complicating the book. I would have much prefered a novel that slowly, over the course of the book, built up the angst and drama, Harry realising that he was a horcrux and would have to die; multiple engagements with Death Eaters, tracking down horcruxes; than what we got, half a book of bouncing around the countryside guided by 'instinct' or Harry's conveniently restored connection to the Dark Lord Mental Broadcast Network followed by just a few chapters at the end with the drama and tension.

[gothxxangel]

Definitely, there were sooo many things in Dh that didn't add up. The meandering Camping Trip from Hell seemed to be just killing time until the eventual final battle. Maybe allowing Teddy to be born so his parents could go off and get themselves killed while leaving their DNA legacy?

Throughout OotP Harry and Sirius struggle mightily to contact each other when they have a direct line cellphone to each other available. They risk (and in Sirius's case lose) their lives because they "forget" they have this link. Yes!! OotP is my favourite book, but this part in it makes me so exasperated. Now we know why Harry was given the morror, as you pointed out in your great essay, but the way it was just forgotten made both Harry and Sirius look stupid.

Thanks for the essay!

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[sdcurtis]

Harry knew what it was for because Sirius had told him what it was for, but Harry chose not to use it.

" I want you to take this," he said quietly, thrusting a badly wrapped package roughly the size of a paperback book into Harry's hands.
"What is it?" Harry asked.
"A way of letting me know if Snape's givin you a hard time. No, don't open it in here!" said Sirius, with a wary look at Mrs. Weasley, who was trying to persuade the twins to wear hand-knitted mittens. "I doubt Molly would approve- but I want to use it if you need me, all right?"
"But he knew he would never use whatever it was. It would not be he, Harry, who lured Sirius from his place of safety, no matter how foully Snape treated him in their forthcoming Occlumency classes." OotP 462

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[eroej_kab]

Harry intent was to not contact Serius, not to forget about the present. When he needed/wanted to contact him, it made no sence not to use/remember the mirror.

[ryf]

Seeing as you already posted at least parts of it:

a) did you delete your previous post?

b) why did you feel the need to repost?

[ryf]

Sorry, you did actually mention it in the post. However, point a) still stands. I do not like people to delete entries here, especially when there are comments from other people on them.

[eroej_kab]

Yes, I feel bad about having to delete the comments as well, but I could find no other way, within this system. I would have liked to keep them.

This version is much updated with significant changes and additions.

[ryf]

Why did you delete then? I am really not very happy about the fact that you deleted other people's comments here.

[ebailey140]

I'd add Hermione mind raping her parents to the list of morally... questionable things in this book.

And, we learn that for Harry, Happily Ever After, All Is Well, is a Fascist state that still practices slavery, where needless torture is "gallant" (at least if you're Harry Potter), and mind raping people is a good and proper thing.

But hey, silver lining for this fic writer. I'd planned a HP/Buffy crossover fic, and now I've got the philosophical conflicts that will ensue when the Potter and Buffy worlds collide. "Fascism, Slavery, Needless Torture, and Mind Rape: Good or Bad?"

[zanesfriend]

Do we really know that Hermione ambushed her parents with the false personality spells? For all that the text says she might have sat them down and explained the situation to them. They might have said, "Is there anything like a magical Witness Protection Program?" She said, "Well, I can impose false personalities on you; even if you are caught, you can't tell what you don't know. If I survive I can come and lift the spell." We don't know one way or another.

I agree that we needed more detail, but had JKR put in all the details that we might have wanted, the book would have been twice as long as it was!

[gazenthia]

The book could have EASILY been three times as long. So what if it was long? Does that mean it couldn't have been good? I and plenty others knew this book was way to damn short to resolve the standing issues and stories from previous books, much less carry on the direct plot of Harry and Voldemort. It turned out to be worse than I imagined

[zanesfriend]

He certainly isn't a Christ figure, because the series isn't an allegorization of the Gospel or even a re-presentation like NARNIA. However, that being said, there is a Christian content to the series.

[gazenthia]

Even before Deathly Hallows I believe Harry was supposed to represent Jesus. In Deathly Hallows, I am certain of it. Dumbledore is supposed to represent God. Harrys *faith* in Dumbledore is an ongoing plot throughout. He loses it, regains and defends him. Then, he goes to die pretty much on Dumbledores orders. Rowling even said in an interview that she was trying to keep her religious side a secret because it would have spoiled the end of the book.