Candide Inspired

Nov 15, 2007 21:52

If one accepts the fundimental newtonian truth that determines there can be no effect with out a cause, one must accept the undeniable existance of a some causer, often called God, by which the world was created; similarly, one who accepts newtons' principle must lead a life of devout atheism, for there is nothing that can cause God to exist except ( Read more... )

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garbagebird November 16 2007, 20:39:10 UTC
voltaire was a deist, man. and don't you think way back when the big bang burst, when the laws of science and reason were not yet in motion, there might not have been such strict rules as simple cause and effect?

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howlin_wolf November 17 2007, 00:35:26 UTC
that's kina my point. it's absurd to accept either, it's just more prudent to accept physics than god

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pianoman12 November 22 2007, 00:44:10 UTC
why is there a strict dichotomy of God and physics.
The two seemed to coexist quite nicely until the church decided science was evil, right? and in that case, the conception of God that you're taking, what be any pure thing that you're bringing to the table here, but an entity that man created for such a purpose as power. maybe that God and physics can't coexist, but I believe that's not quite the notion you mean when you're talking of absurdity of it.

i mean, physics is the nature of hows, not why's, at least from everything i understand it to be.
consider, .3.1415926535897932384626433832helpimtrappedinauniversemachine795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679

why doned these principles all got up and existed. but there's your question again.

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howlin_wolf November 25 2007, 02:54:55 UTC
science wasn't really around until the 16th century, and the church thought it was evil as soon as it was invented. Science is a man-made tool to explain the universe just like god. Both are in adequate and, I believe, irreconcilable. I perfer science because it is more prudent.

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the_naked_ape November 16 2007, 22:43:11 UTC
There is something I find attractive about the Absurd universe...

I don't know, I guess in never finding a truth or an absolute, I feel free to create reality as I will it and think it?

I don't know. You might want to try the myth of sisyphus, though that's more about the absurd universe and how it effects us, and less about god as a paradox.

We were talking about him in Humanities, and he troubles me too...

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howlin_wolf November 17 2007, 00:45:31 UTC
I love absurdity, the world wouldn't make sense without it. Which I think is exactly what you're doing--making sense of the absurd. Of course, you're not right about it, but there is no right so that really shouldn't matter. The problem is when people forclose their identity to religion or other institutions. I'm not sure where I'm going with this, so I'll stop.

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flaccid_dork November 17 2007, 01:01:49 UTC
oh, baby, don't stop, don't stop

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the_naked_ape November 17 2007, 04:47:15 UTC
Makes sense to me!

And if it doesn't, that's absuridty, too. People went nuts for the surrealists, and they pretty literally didn't make any comprehensible sense! And I like them, and I like you.

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