Concrit Post 22

Nov 19, 2010 14:57

How's My Driving?
∞ Comment with all the journals you RP with (and the communities they're from).
∞ Reply to other people's comments (anon or logged in) with constructive criticism.
∞ Learn from the suggestions and profit!

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owns_the_chair November 20 2010, 21:12:04 UTC
owns_the_chair James T. Kirk// AOS-verse.

empire_captain James T. Kirk// Mirror!verse.

cptn_j_kirk Jamison T. Kirk// rule63!style.

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mccoy_joanna November 20 2010, 21:44:23 UTC
You. As I have said before it's really hard for me to express just how much I adore you. There are your muses, and then there is just you, as a mun, and I honestly don't know what I would do with you as part of my day. I love the conversations we can have from either the muses, and canon, and plotting, to just random silliness and plots. (KU, Ice Cream, Con... need I say more?) You approach Jim and dissect his words, his thoughts, his actions and break them down so that it's both plausible and you can actually see why he does what he does, and how he works, and where he's coming from. You make him real and you blend canon and personal canon so seamlessly that it's impossible to tell them apart. You research everything to an extent that even the smallest things don't feel half assed. Whatever the thread, no matter how fluffy or sweet, there is never a feeling of anything but the best ( ... )

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owns_the_chair November 20 2010, 22:51:10 UTC
Aw, shucks... *blushes and surreptitiously wipes tear* I knew my obsessive compulsive research disorder would come in handy one day. *grin*

I seriously love and adore you too! So damn much!!! I can't ever repeat that enough. Ever.

And yes, we do have those con plans... I'll get the duct tape if you get the inconspicuous, unmarked van?

<33333333333333333333333333333 x infinity!

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owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 00:14:16 UTC
You used to be a wonderful player to play with, before you let your Kirks' angst define them. Now they tend to be in such state of mental disrepair, it's impossible to imagine them being allowed to keep command of much of anything. It's a shame, is all, because you used to have the best Kirks around.

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owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 00:58:11 UTC
First of all, thanks for commenting with your critique. It's always good to have someone point out the tings you might need to improve with your muses. However, I'm interested to know how it is you feel my Kirks are defined by their angst. As they are Kirks, there is going to be a good deal of angst in their background - it would be close to impossible to write a Kirk who didn't have a sometimes turbulent inner life. But I do try to keep it as just that; their inner life, and in their inner monologue as Kirk is very much a "show, don't tell" character ( ... )

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owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 01:23:18 UTC
The problem with that, of course, would mean outting myself as the one mourning the loss of your well-written Kirks, something I don't have the courage to do. Or else I would've said something long before this, when I started to notice you falling more and more into the trap most of fandom seems to have with Kirk. Yes, he's had a miserable life, but, realistically, he should be able to cope better. I know that XI =/= TOS, but I sometimes worry that people, you in particular, have a hard time seeing that Pine's Kirk is one day grow into something at least a little like Shatner's.

I will say, specifically, that there was a situation we RPed wherein I found Kirk to be entirely irresponsible as far as captaincy went. Furthermore, his reactions to my character and the completely ridiculous levels of angst you provided that were neither perportionate to my character's actions, nor okay at all with me. I sincerely hope you check with other muns before Kirk behaves so wildly out of character these days, because I know it certainly hurt and ( ... )

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owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 01:53:01 UTC
As far as I can tell by your reply, you're basing your opinion on one thread we've had together. I fail to see how occasionally playing angst to portray a multi-dimensional character can be perceived as "disproportionate and ridiculous levels of angst". I have no problem with expounding further on the decisions I've made for why I play Jim how I play him, nor will it be a problem for me to provide arguments and canon references (both reboot and TOS canon) as to why I've made these decisions.

I'm sorry, but your critique seems to be biased by a specific thread you were in with my Kirk and unless you're willing to put yourself out there more in some way, I can't exactly comment or change.

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owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 02:02:52 UTC
Believe me, if it was one thread, I wouldn't say anything. But it seemed to happen near continuously with both your male and female Kirk (despite the fact that the girl was so much better before you started playing the boy) with a few of my characters. A year ago, you didn't have the problem, but in the past months, you certainly have.

I do have a few questions, though, and I would look forward to your reasoning and canon references for a few things. What in Kirk's character would imply that he would sooner have an argument with a close friend than even mention the topic over which he had spent a day brooding? Why, growing up on a farm, is he unaccustomed to and hateful towards cats? How can you justify someone being captain when they clearly haven't dealt with near-death situations in their youth? Do you have any idea how important mental health is in military situations and how painfully obvious it is that your Kirk could never pass a psychiatric evaluation?

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1/2 owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 03:50:36 UTC
In answer to your questions:

- About Jim's aversion to cats:

Jim has grown up on a farm, yes. Having been to more than one farm myself, and having friends who've grown up on farms, I can inform you that most of the cats who live on farms are not kept as pets. They're there to catch mice and are often wild and feral. I've never been to a farm where cats were allowed inside the house, much less kept as pets. In the few instances where cats are kept as pets on a farm, they usually require more help because the house cats get fat and happy and don't chase the mice when they have a nice bowl of food. Thus, Jim would not see them as suitable pets, or anything he wanted to have in his quarters. Furthermore, if Jim had come across one of these wild cats as a child and had a bad experience - like getting scratched - it's more than common for someone who has such an experience to develop a lifelong aversion to the creature who injured them ( ... )

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2/2 owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 03:51:01 UTC
As for Jim being Captain when he hasn't dealt with near-death experiences in his past? I seriously doubt an institution such as Starfleet would put him in the Captain's chair if they thought he wasn't fit for the job. While he has had near-death experiences in his past, and is still influenced by some of these, he is fully functional and able to serve as Captain. If having unresolved traumatic experiences in your past precluded you from a command position, the military would be in serious trouble due to an extreme lack of experienced officers ( ... )

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Re: 2/2 owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 04:09:56 UTC
For the record, I never mourned the loss of that verse. It was completely out of control. I did mourn and continue to mourn the loss of an excellent roleplayer and an even better friend.

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Every night in my dreams... owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 03:06:07 UTC
I see you. I feeeeel you.

Er, I mean...
>_>

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owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 03:08:04 UTC
OKAY SO THERE WAS EPIC SPACING FAIL ON THAT COMMENT. WHOOPS.

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Upon realizing that all that was fairly incoherent owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 03:21:45 UTC
I would just like to say that I adore Jim to pieces. He's such a wonderful mix of AOS and TOS, and I love that threads run the full spectrum of emotions. They're loving and funny and brainy and angsty and everything I love about RP. I love how deeply Jim FEELS. I love how you highlight his intelligence. I love how he can be Captain Kirk but can also be totally boyish and adorable. And as you probably no, no one makes my girls happier.

Also, can I just say that I love how our smut threads contain more emotion and characterization than most REGULAR threads I do w/ lots of people? Just.. damn, yo. It's awesome.

And I could rant all day, but.. I should probably stop now, or I really will rant all day. <33333333333 FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRR

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owns_the_chair November 21 2010, 04:24:48 UTC
But my heaaaaaaaaarrrrrrt wiiiiiiiiill go oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!

*clears throat*

*stops your ears from bleeding after hearing me sing*

Every tag I get from you brightens my day, and every tag I write to you makes me pull out my A-game and gives me new insight into the muse. For me, that's what good RP'ing is all about. I love that you're as crazy as I am and that you tolerate my weird ramblings. You already know how much I adore your muses, and I could write pages about every little detail about them that warms my old canon-bitchy heart. *pets canon stick of DOOM*

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH LOOOOOOOOOOOVE!!!!!!

<333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333

P.S.: Have a nekkid Jim icon for extra love. ;P

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*firmly resists the urge to continue ranting about epic love* nyota_uhura24 November 21 2010, 04:32:58 UTC
... But Nyota wanted to leave this userpic for Jim.

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