to be absolutely fair, the "be prepared" scenes were based on hitler's rallies at nuremberg. that being said, though, i also think this is hideously inappropriate.
I just thought it a bit... Idk... immature to exploit it in fanart. Of course, I don't think the film is trying to provoke anything necessarily (aside from the fact that Walt Disney himself was anti-Semitic and anti-Communist supportive of Hitler's notions), I just think they were trying to create an effective and realistic villain inspired by a real world dictator.
on the other hand, disney died in the sixties, and tlk is in the nineties. and i definitely agree with you on the second part -- i mean, part of the reason hitler got to where he did was because of his speaking abilities and charisma, and it does do more to scar's characterisation. i don't think it's immature, per se, to exploit the nuremberg reference, but it's first, not appropriate (comparing scar to hitler? don't you think the scope of the holocaust and the destruction caused by wwii deserves a little more remembrance than that) , and second, it's kind of digging to deeply, don't you think? like saying that, i don't know (bad comparison coming up) the prince in snow white was a necrophiliac because she was by all appearances dead. it's just a story, and this happens to be one of the ways to further and complexify (oh dear, making up my own words now) the story. it's not implying anything sinister (to my knowledge), there's really no subliminal messaging.
i don't know. ignore me. raging headache is raging.
Yeah, that's what I meant by ''...aside from the fact that...'' meaning Disney wasn't alive at the time TLK was made, indicating he had no direct influence over the Hitler reference(s
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that being said, though, i also think this is hideously inappropriate.
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Yes, that's a well-known fact.
I made a post about it here:
http://community.livejournal.com/history_haven/10114.html
I just thought it a bit... Idk... immature to exploit it in fanart. Of course, I don't think the film is trying to provoke anything necessarily (aside from the fact that Walt Disney himself was anti-Semitic and anti-Communist supportive of Hitler's notions), I just think they were trying to create an effective and realistic villain inspired by a real world dictator.
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and i definitely agree with you on the second part -- i mean, part of the reason hitler got to where he did was because of his speaking abilities and charisma, and it does do more to scar's characterisation.
i don't think it's immature, per se, to exploit the nuremberg reference, but it's first, not appropriate (comparing scar to hitler? don't you think the scope of the holocaust and the destruction caused by wwii deserves a little more remembrance than that) , and second, it's kind of digging to deeply, don't you think? like saying that, i don't know (bad comparison coming up) the prince in snow white was a necrophiliac because she was by all appearances dead. it's just a story, and this happens to be one of the ways to further and complexify (oh dear, making up my own words now) the story. it's not implying anything sinister (to my knowledge), there's really no subliminal messaging.
i don't know. ignore me. raging headache is raging.
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Right.
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