4x08 "Once Upon A Time In Texas"
I am SO SORRY for this being up so late! For some reason, I convinced myself that I'd posted it two days ago. :/
The Dream Team and the Time Conundrum
Hiro, Charlie and Sylar...and also Caitlin:
"The brain man?" LOL. By that measure Peter is Emobang Man and Claire is Vapidgirl.
tiptoe39
"Sylar Field Edition." There is certainly something funny to be said about this, but I can't think of it.
tiptoe39
Who was that chatty boy in black? Certainly not the killer machine we loved back in S1, the one who just wanted more BRAAAAAAAINZ, no matter what. That Sylar would had never EVER left two yummy powers like that. Especially Hiro's power. I mean, freezing time and teleporting! I know he has is own magic carpet but...
di_elle
the hats are important! when he got his hat on, is bad, when he hasn't, he helps people!
di_elle
Meanwhile Charlie will join Caitlin in the "Lost in Time Thanks to Moron BFs Club" and they'll go together to the "4rd WKPFPBH(*) Annual Convention".
(*)Women Killed, Put in Fridge or Put on Bus on Heroes
di_elle
(Sylar Field Edition, hee! 40% more rugged than the regular Sylar, waterproof to 30 feet, comes in a shatterproof case with a stylish black band!)
jaune_chat
I adored him and Hiro having their back-alley showdown, and "I'm a doctor" (well, Hiro's the Time Lord, so you're more like the Master, surely?)
redscharlach
Given this show's cavalier attitude to the space-time contiuum, I'm going to roundly ignore the predestination paradox created by the fact that if three-years-ago!Hiro comes back from three years plus six months ago and is told that Charlie is alive, present-day!Hiro won't ever go back in time to fix her death in the first place. Instead, I am just going to sit here and repeat the words "Wibbly wobbly timey wimey" to myself until it all goes away
redscharlach
Of course, there are plot-protection reasons for yanking Charlie into the present day, so that Don Qui-Hiro can keep questing after his Dulcinea for a while longer, but I do find it frustrating that she's basically still a helpless chick waiting to be rescued. And if the men of Heroes are anything to go by, she could be waiting for a loooong time. (I'm picturing her hanging out at an interdimensional bar with Caitlin, discussing how their respective boyfriends should never be left in charge of anything for more than two minutes.)
redscharlach
"Ever since my first day on the job as a Starfleet Captain, I swore I'd never let myself get caught in one of these Godforsaken paradoxes. The past is the future, the future is the past--it all gives me a headache." -- Captain Janeway
Yeah. Me too.
the_other_sandy
But, really, stuffing Sylar into a bus can only result in dead people on a bus. That's not very heroic of you. Plus I can’t imagine it’s healthy for Sylar. Can you just imagine what he was thinking when he woke up? “Muahaha, kill the- wait…where the hell am I and who do I have to kill in a violent and gruesome manner?”
ikira
Sylar didn't always kill Charlie! Stop saying that, Hiro! She had that blood clot! Aaaaand the writers remember this fact halfway through the episode. Good job, kids.
bending_sickle
Also, about the shirt: the under one was black, the top one was white. We have the "white hat" comment (oh show, how stupid you must think we are) and then in the stand-off we have Sylar in black and Hiro in white except he isn't! he's black underneath! so I call foreshadowing. (If the writers still know what that is, of course.)
bending_sickle
Hiro, a word of advice: go to India, find poor, abandoned Molly who's freaking out because Mohinder's gone and she can't find him because he's dead and Matt doesn't remember she exists now that he has mini-Matt to draw all his attention. (Oh, step-dads with new biological progeny, how you sucketh in fiction.) Molly can help you find Charlie on your own, and screw what Samuel wants. (Or not, whatever, fix Momo, I don't care if he's going to still be missing his brain. Please, Show, give Momo back his brain. Sylar agrees.)
bending_sickle
HOMG! (I just had a little fangasm, because at this time in S1 nobody had seen Sylar's face and he was just this scary, faceless shadowy guy who kept mysteriously murdering people AND IT WAS SO AWESOME. And then we finally got to see his face, and he was gorgeous and kept having non-stop chemistry with everyone he met! *sighs* I miss the good old days.)
aunt_zelda
Burnt Toast Diner. Hiro hides behind a paper that proclaims that Homecoming is Tomorrow. Continuity? On this show?! *geekspasms*
aunt_zelda
Charlie offers Sylar coffee, Sylar grills her about her ability, sounding like the Big Bad Wolf interviewing sheep on their tastiness.
aunt_zelda
Oh, Charlie. Your life sucks, majorly. First you're dying then get saved because your stalkery boyfriend makes a deal with a serial killer, pissing you off but you forgive him only to get trapped in Time somewhere.
Let us know if you find that Irish chick...
fallen_iceangel
The only moment that seemed even remotely in character was towards the end after Hiro's "Sry, you'll die alone and everyone will hate your guts. LULZ" speech when he decided he didn't give a damn, but on his black baseball cap, smirked and went off on his merry way to kill a cheerleader.
psychedelicammo
Charlie!!! Let's flail! *flailyflail*
ilikethequiet
LOL you reduce the 'save the cheerleader, save the world' to 'actually, the cheerleader is gonna be fine.'
ilikethequiet
Sylar doesn't care about your happies.
ilikethequiet
The Emo and the Deceased
Samuel and Mohinder
Now we have Butterfly Man. This is a problem. I'm guessing Matt will become Baby Man and Mohinder will become Pretty Man. No, Scaly Man. No, Invisible Man. *sightiptoe39
And what is that mistake you may be asking. Oh just a little matter of killing someone named MOHINDER. At least we know he wasn't hanging up on Matt on purpose.
godiloveslash
The Emo of the week is Samuel: don't cry, you're ruining your eyeliner!
di_elle
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Samuel is not a man you want to mess with people. He will hug you and kill your whole family in the same breath.
godiloveslash
Ha ha, endless hilarity that Samuel's first squashed butterfly is Mohinder! I'd be tempted to leave him squashed, but that's just me. At least it's a cast-iron excuse for his absence so far: "Sorry, was unable to attend any previous episodes due to being extensively DED. Love, Mohinder." It's a wild stab in the dark, but I'm guessing that he may not stay that way for long.
redscharlach
Poor Mohinder. You died eight weeks ago and no one noticed. This is what happens when you try to web and/or experiment on all your friends. And abandon your daughter. Remember the lesson from this for after you're resurrected next week.
starvinbohemian
"You manipulated me." YES, Hiro, he did. That's what happens when you listen to the strange man with strange powers who keeps stalking you through time.
starvinbohemian
What Samuel should have done was pull a Ninth Doctor and say that pterodactyl things will eat the world if you mess around with time for personal reasons like a dead father (re: Pete Tyler) or a dead almost-girlfriend (re: Charlie) and that TIME AND SPACE AND REALITY AS WE KNOW IT are not worth single individuals or even individual events, and before you change anything you'd better be damn sure that you're prepared to face the consequences of living through a completely different time stream!
aunt_zelda
Also on the subject of murder; Hi Mohinder! We finally found and you! We missed you and so did Matt, you wouldn't believe who's been living in his brain and - Oh. You're dead. It's okay, I'm sure you'll be revived and well filled in a couple episodes from now. Now that Nathan's finally dead they need to stick someone else on the yo-yo ride of death. It's nothing personal, you're just to pretty to live.
psychedelicammo
The Re-Used and the Rediculous
Eden and Mohinder; HRG, Claire and "Lauren"
Halloo, old footage. Dear show, we asked you to recapture the essence of the first season. WHY DID YOU TAKE US LITERALLY?!?tiptoe39
Isaac and Eden! OMG, you're-- just stock footage. D: D: D: What a cruel, cruel tease.
starvinbohemian
What's with all the poetry? Is this Glee or something? I like that he quoted Midsummer, though. Although Hamlet might be awesome too. Ahahhaa, Noah as Hamlet. Or Macbeth. :D
tiptoe39
And from all this we learn… Noah Bennet is a good family man, I suppose. I do hope he remembers about Lyle at some point. That’d be awesome.
jaune_chat
Finally, a potential new job for Noah when he no longer needs to bag and tag. I would love to see him teaching at some really tough high school, ala Dangerous Minds. No one would dare fuck with him. “Kid, you can’t scare me with your death threats and gang affiliations. I used to capture super-powered serial killers as a hobby. Now turn to scene one of Midsummer’s Night Dream and start reading the prologue. With feeling.”
jaune_chat
That's the problem with releasing your episodes onto DVD-- people remember and have proof of your screw-ups. Claire wouldn't have been with the cheerleaders for the homecoming celebrations or having lunch with "the girls," because she was grounded, banned from homecoming, and all the girls hated her at the time. Incidentally, Claire hated HRG at the time for said grounding, and they wouldn't have had that heartwarming chat.
starvinbohemian
Speaking of the cheerleader, Heroes writers seem to have forgotten that by homecoming the rest of the cheersquad hated Claire. WHERE'S ZACH?
psychedelicammo
The Fail
Once Upon a Time in Texas, heavy retcon happened and elephant-size butterflies were killed.
di_elle
Next week: Nathan returns, Peter goes crazy and Matt and Head Sylar go on a killing spree/road trip. Oh boys will you never learn.
godiloveslash
Why do I keep watching this show? I don't know really, it stop making sense a long time ago. I think it's for the pretty, it's new tag line should be pretty people doing fail things.
ilikethequiet
The Dream Team and the Time Conundrum
Hiro, Charlie and Sylar...and also Caitlin:
"The brain man?" LOL. By that measure Peter is Emobang Man and Claire is Vapidgirl.
tiptoe39
"Sylar Field Edition." There is certainly something funny to be said about this, but I can't think of it.
tiptoe39
Who was that chatty boy in black? Certainly not the killer machine we loved back in S1, the one who just wanted more BRAAAAAAAINZ, no matter what. That Sylar would had never EVER left two yummy powers like that. Especially Hiro's power. I mean, freezing time and teleporting! I know he has is own magic carpet but...
di_elle
the hats are important! when he got his hat on, is bad, when he hasn't, he helps people!
di_elle
Meanwhile Charlie will join Caitlin in the "Lost in Time Thanks to Moron BFs Club" and they'll go together to the "4rd WKPFPBH(*) Annual Convention".
(*)Women Killed, Put in Fridge or Put on Bus on Heroes
di_elle
(Sylar Field Edition, hee! 40% more rugged than the regular Sylar, waterproof to 30 feet, comes in a shatterproof case with a stylish black band!)
jaune_chat
I adored him and Hiro having their back-alley showdown, and "I'm a doctor" (well, Hiro's the Time Lord, so you're more like the Master, surely?)
redscharlach
Given this show's cavalier attitude to the space-time contiuum, I'm going to roundly ignore the predestination paradox created by the fact that if three-years-ago!Hiro comes back from three years plus six months ago and is told that Charlie is alive, present-day!Hiro won't ever go back in time to fix her death in the first place. Instead, I am just going to sit here and repeat the words "Wibbly wobbly timey wimey" to myself until it all goes away
redscharlach
Of course, there are plot-protection reasons for yanking Charlie into the present day, so that Don Qui-Hiro can keep questing after his Dulcinea for a while longer, but I do find it frustrating that she's basically still a helpless chick waiting to be rescued. And if the men of Heroes are anything to go by, she could be waiting for a loooong time. (I'm picturing her hanging out at an interdimensional bar with Caitlin, discussing how their respective boyfriends should never be left in charge of anything for more than two minutes.)
redscharlach
"Ever since my first day on the job as a Starfleet Captain, I swore I'd never let myself get caught in one of these Godforsaken paradoxes. The past is the future, the future is the past--it all gives me a headache." -- Captain Janeway
Yeah. Me too.
the_other_sandy
But, really, stuffing Sylar into a bus can only result in dead people on a bus. That's not very heroic of you. Plus I can’t imagine it’s healthy for Sylar. Can you just imagine what he was thinking when he woke up? “Muahaha, kill the- wait…where the hell am I and who do I have to kill in a violent and gruesome manner?”
ikira
Sylar didn't always kill Charlie! Stop saying that, Hiro! She had that blood clot! Aaaaand the writers remember this fact halfway through the episode. Good job, kids.
bending_sickle
Also, about the shirt: the under one was black, the top one was white. We have the "white hat" comment (oh show, how stupid you must think we are) and then in the stand-off we have Sylar in black and Hiro in white except he isn't! he's black underneath! so I call foreshadowing. (If the writers still know what that is, of course.)
bending_sickle
Hiro, a word of advice: go to India, find poor, abandoned Molly who's freaking out because Mohinder's gone and she can't find him because he's dead and Matt doesn't remember she exists now that he has mini-Matt to draw all his attention. (Oh, step-dads with new biological progeny, how you sucketh in fiction.) Molly can help you find Charlie on your own, and screw what Samuel wants. (Or not, whatever, fix Momo, I don't care if he's going to still be missing his brain. Please, Show, give Momo back his brain. Sylar agrees.)
bending_sickle
HOMG! (I just had a little fangasm, because at this time in S1 nobody had seen Sylar's face and he was just this scary, faceless shadowy guy who kept mysteriously murdering people AND IT WAS SO AWESOME. And then we finally got to see his face, and he was gorgeous and kept having non-stop chemistry with everyone he met! *sighs* I miss the good old days.)
aunt_zelda
Burnt Toast Diner. Hiro hides behind a paper that proclaims that Homecoming is Tomorrow. Continuity? On this show?! *geekspasms*
aunt_zelda
Charlie offers Sylar coffee, Sylar grills her about her ability, sounding like the Big Bad Wolf interviewing sheep on their tastiness.
aunt_zelda
Oh, Charlie. Your life sucks, majorly. First you're dying then get saved because your stalkery boyfriend makes a deal with a serial killer, pissing you off but you forgive him only to get trapped in Time somewhere.
Let us know if you find that Irish chick...
fallen_iceangel
The only moment that seemed even remotely in character was towards the end after Hiro's "Sry, you'll die alone and everyone will hate your guts. LULZ" speech when he decided he didn't give a damn, but on his black baseball cap, smirked and went off on his merry way to kill a cheerleader.
psychedelicammo
Charlie!!! Let's flail! *flailyflail*
ilikethequiet
LOL you reduce the 'save the cheerleader, save the world' to 'actually, the cheerleader is gonna be fine.'
ilikethequiet
Sylar doesn't care about your happies.
ilikethequiet
The Emo and the Deceased
Samuel and Mohinder
Now we have Butterfly Man. This is a problem. I'm guessing Matt will become Baby Man and Mohinder will become Pretty Man. No, Scaly Man. No, Invisible Man. *sightiptoe39
And what is that mistake you may be asking. Oh just a little matter of killing someone named MOHINDER. At least we know he wasn't hanging up on Matt on purpose.
godiloveslash
The Emo of the week is Samuel: don't cry, you're ruining your eyeliner!
di_elle
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Samuel is not a man you want to mess with people. He will hug you and kill your whole family in the same breath.
godiloveslash
Ha ha, endless hilarity that Samuel's first squashed butterfly is Mohinder! I'd be tempted to leave him squashed, but that's just me. At least it's a cast-iron excuse for his absence so far: "Sorry, was unable to attend any previous episodes due to being extensively DED. Love, Mohinder." It's a wild stab in the dark, but I'm guessing that he may not stay that way for long.
redscharlach
Poor Mohinder. You died eight weeks ago and no one noticed. This is what happens when you try to web and/or experiment on all your friends. And abandon your daughter. Remember the lesson from this for after you're resurrected next week.
starvinbohemian
"You manipulated me." YES, Hiro, he did. That's what happens when you listen to the strange man with strange powers who keeps stalking you through time.
starvinbohemian
What Samuel should have done was pull a Ninth Doctor and say that pterodactyl things will eat the world if you mess around with time for personal reasons like a dead father (re: Pete Tyler) or a dead almost-girlfriend (re: Charlie) and that TIME AND SPACE AND REALITY AS WE KNOW IT are not worth single individuals or even individual events, and before you change anything you'd better be damn sure that you're prepared to face the consequences of living through a completely different time stream!
aunt_zelda
Also on the subject of murder; Hi Mohinder! We finally found and you! We missed you and so did Matt, you wouldn't believe who's been living in his brain and - Oh. You're dead. It's okay, I'm sure you'll be revived and well filled in a couple episodes from now. Now that Nathan's finally dead they need to stick someone else on the yo-yo ride of death. It's nothing personal, you're just to pretty to live.
psychedelicammo
The Re-Used and the Rediculous
Eden and Mohinder; HRG, Claire and "Lauren"
Halloo, old footage. Dear show, we asked you to recapture the essence of the first season. WHY DID YOU TAKE US LITERALLY?!?tiptoe39
Isaac and Eden! OMG, you're-- just stock footage. D: D: D: What a cruel, cruel tease.
starvinbohemian
What's with all the poetry? Is this Glee or something? I like that he quoted Midsummer, though. Although Hamlet might be awesome too. Ahahhaa, Noah as Hamlet. Or Macbeth. :D
tiptoe39
And from all this we learn… Noah Bennet is a good family man, I suppose. I do hope he remembers about Lyle at some point. That’d be awesome.
jaune_chat
Finally, a potential new job for Noah when he no longer needs to bag and tag. I would love to see him teaching at some really tough high school, ala Dangerous Minds. No one would dare fuck with him. “Kid, you can’t scare me with your death threats and gang affiliations. I used to capture super-powered serial killers as a hobby. Now turn to scene one of Midsummer’s Night Dream and start reading the prologue. With feeling.”
jaune_chat
That's the problem with releasing your episodes onto DVD-- people remember and have proof of your screw-ups. Claire wouldn't have been with the cheerleaders for the homecoming celebrations or having lunch with "the girls," because she was grounded, banned from homecoming, and all the girls hated her at the time. Incidentally, Claire hated HRG at the time for said grounding, and they wouldn't have had that heartwarming chat.
starvinbohemian
Speaking of the cheerleader, Heroes writers seem to have forgotten that by homecoming the rest of the cheersquad hated Claire. WHERE'S ZACH?
psychedelicammo
The Fail
Once Upon a Time in Texas, heavy retcon happened and elephant-size butterflies were killed.
di_elle
Next week: Nathan returns, Peter goes crazy and Matt and Head Sylar go on a killing spree/road trip. Oh boys will you never learn.
godiloveslash
Why do I keep watching this show? I don't know really, it stop making sense a long time ago. I think it's for the pretty, it's new tag line should be pretty people doing fail things.
ilikethequiet