!Rewatch - The Best of Peter Petrelli #1 - the Wall

[sylar]

The Wall got the most votes in our Best of Peter Petrelli survey. It is one of my top 5 Heroes episodes period. Please join us for a discussion about this awesome episode by leaving your thoughts on this entry sometime during the next week.

On May 2nd, the next Rewatch post will go up.

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What were your favorite Peter moments during this episode?

[sylar]

Re: What were your favorite Peter moments during this episode?

[sylar]

Without a doubt my single favorite Peter moment is when he belts Sylar for mocking Peter's mission to save what's her name. It was just so perfect.

I also love when he gives Sylar the book, because it shows that Peter cares about him even though he's done such horrible things.

The look on Peter's face when he realizes that the Wall wasn't because of Sylar is priceless too, because when he lets go of his selfish anger and inability to forgive, the Wall can finally be broken.

I've always thought that the second Peter touched Sylar's head in his red apartment, that the perspective shifted to be inside of Peter's mind not Sylar's.

What did Peter do that made you want to hit him?

[sylar]

Re: What did Peter do that made you want to hit him?

[jackvelvet]

The whole thing (except forgiveness). I feel like Peter can be such a reckless idiot; it shows he hasn't really grown as a character at all.

I really wanted to smack Matt a lot during this whole arc too. But I guess this isn't about Matt... :)

What do you think motivated Peter's forgiveness of Sylar?

[sylar]

Re: What do you think motivated Peter's forgiveness of Sylar?

[talldarknpsycho]

I think it was partially seeing that Sylar really was trying to change, even if Peter didn't want to believe it, and also because that's just who Peter is.

Yes, he hated Sylar for killing Nathan, he had every right to, but Sylar was changing, showing Peter that he wasn't the monster any more and no matter what, Peter couldn't hold what he'd done against him forever. Peter has a caring heart (hence the empathy as an ability) and he would be willing to give someone another chance if they proved themselves.

I think he'd be leery though, not sure if Sylar really meant it, if the change was temporary but as long as Sylar proved himself to really having changed, Peter would give him the benefit of the doubt.

Re: What do you think motivated Peter's forgiveness of Sylar?

[jackvelvet]

No idea. Forgiveness is a wonderful concept in the real world, and it can be one of the hardest things to do...but in Peter's case, I feel like he passes it around too much. To me it makes his motivations unclear. It could just be habit, Emma, or actually realizing Sylar had changed. The problem with passing out for forgiveness too often is that it begins to lose its strength, and begins to look more like a fear of standing up for yourself. Peter held on strong (and he didn't have to be a dick about it like he was), but in the end he gave in to time. It was probably too difficult to maintain his snotty attitude for that many years. No matter what, simply getting worn down was one of the factors involved.

Do you think the Wall made Petlar canon?

[sylar]

[sylar]

Without a doubt. While Sylar might not be a sexual creature, and I'm sorry if that opinion bothers anyone, but Peter Petrelli is. He's a pretty, rich, boy from the good side of tracks. Peter's used to getting it and getting it often. I tend to doubt he spent that entire time with his left and right hands only.

They totally did it. The Wall made Petlar canon.

[talldarknpsycho]

I have to agree with you. Sylar isn't a very sexual creature but there's no way Peter could go 5 years without some kind of human touch. It's not even that Peter is a sexual creature (which I think he is too) it's that he's the kind of person that needs that human contact with someone.

Whether or not he'd hate himself for giving in and letting Sylar touch him, and for touching Sylar, is another matter. I think he would, for a long time, probably until they got back home. He might even tell himself after they got back that he didn't want Sylar, that it was only out of necessity that he did that and he'd do everything he could to deny any real feelings for Sylar.

But eventually he'd have to admit to himself that not all those times he was with Sylar were only out of necessity and he'd stop lying to himself and admit that he cared. Until then though, he'd make Sylar think that he'd only done it because there was no one else and that he really didn't care for Sylar.

Re: Do you think the Wall made Petlar canon?

[jackvelvet]

Nay. It certainly gives fandom an extraordinarily solid reason to build upon for Petlar fanworks though. Too many missing scenes, and too many threads. One doesn't have to have their slash goggles on very tight to make a case.

However I'm too into the craft to think there was any implication there--if there were, it would have been more blatant, because such a relationship/interaction would be immensely important to the narrative. Thus, it skirts very close to canon, but not quite in my eyes. The "love" comment I believe was meant as an insult and not as a double entendre, for the very reasons I already laid above.

Had the Heroes story been allowed to progress into a fifth season? Maybe....

In Character - RP Comments

[sylar]

[italianeaglesct]

Seriously, Matt? What kind of douchebag keeps building the wall after I've gone into Sylar's head? I don't have regen. I'll rot!

[talldarknpsycho]

Since when has Matt been known for his brains? He's an asshole, I tried to warn you but no one listens to me. *snorts*

[italianeaglesct]

Seeing what he did to you. *looks at my feet* I think he's a sadistic fuck.