Comments | hermetic: that fucking lying liar who lies!

hermetic

that fucking lying liar who lies!

Jun 12, 2009 14:38

I am livid with President Obama and the brief the Department of Justice filed today.

He pretty much just lost my vote.

Read about it at Americablog.I mean, it's one thing to feel that you have to defend current bad law, and it's another thing to invoke incest and child marriage to do it. Oh, and also, to do so in a way that makes a hypocrite of ( Read more... )

rage, politics, righteous indignation

Comments 3

mhnicholson June 12 2009, 23:27:06 UTC

Ouch. I desperately wanted this to turn out to be a rogue Bush appointee firing this off on his way out the door. But it's not. It's Tony West, the finance co-chair of the California campaign to elect Obama.

I don't get it. I don't see how this is some super-secret way to eliminate DOMA in a surprise second move. I don't see clever, subtle goodness I need to believe is there. All I see is LGBT issues thrown under the bus.

Damn. I sure hope I'm wrong about this.

hermetic June 12 2009, 23:41:05 UTC

I don't get it. I don't see how this is some super-secret way to eliminate DOMA in a surprise second move. I don't see clever, subtle goodness I need to believe is there. All I see is LGBT issues thrown under the bus.

Precisely.

The only way I'll forgive this is if he pulls a fucking miracle out of his ass. If this leads to DOMA being repealed, post haste, I might be able to view it all with a cynical political eye.

But I'm doubting that.

I mean, whose fucking vote is he courting? Does he think the fucking racists/sexists/classists are going to embrace him? Is he hoping for a fucking dinner invitation and blow job from Ann Coulter?

Jesus fuck.

Oh, and any fucking Auntie Toms I hear making goddamned apologia for him will be kicked in the fucking teeth. I am done being polite.

harvardmouth June 15 2009, 15:45:37 UTC

The analysis on Americablog is pretty piss-poor, at least from a legal perspective. I've just glanced at the brief, but in general:

1. String citations do not equate the fact pattern of one case with the fact pattern of another case; they merely demonstrate that the legal principle applied in one case may be applied in another. For instance, if I'm arguing that the police were allowed to enter the defendant's house without a warrant because he was in the process of selling drugs to a consenting adult, I might cite a case that held that the cops could enter a house without a warrant when the defendant was trying to kill someone. Doesn't mean that attempted murder is the same as selling drugs, just that there's a "crime-in-progress" exception to the Fourth Amendment.

2. In interpreting statutes, courts often go to the legislative history to inform the construction of certain terms. DOMA has a pretty negative legislative history, and the defendant (the United States) has to refer to it in its brief. That garbage is absolutely ( ... )