one of my favorite things about this series is they express death in a way that seems much more real to me than anything else I can remember. They aren't heroic narrative geysers with clear build-ups, but rather sudden and apparently capriciously bolts from the blue that leaves everyone shattered or non-plussed or just confused.
It's how the deaths I have experienced in my life have gone down.
I still can't process Derek's death. I can't say that I liked it at all, but I respect it, and the show. I want to write so much meta and rewatch everything, but I still have school.... ACK! I just start flailing about thinking about this show, and where it might be going, Fox willing.
I can't say that I liked it at all, but I respect it, and the show.
Yeah, exactly. I'd become very fond of Derek! I don't want him to go! But in a show where the stakes are so high, if ALL the main characters ALWAYS make it through EVERYTHING, it starts to feel like cheating -- we don't have to worry about the characters, because obviously they're all going to make it.
I can't even think about the show being cancelled. I just literally cannot handle that thought. I stick my fingers in my ears and go LA LA LA LA LA everytime anyone mentions it.
It would be stupid of Fox to cancel the show when Terminator 4 will provide free publicity over the summer. What is hard is knowing that the numbers would be great for a cable channel, and that that is where this show actually belongs... besides, the longer the show goes on the more opportunities for alternate time-line Derek to show up. :D Yes, that does sound ridiculously hopeful, and more than a little delusional, but my only other option is to return to reading fan fiction and it just doesn't fill the void the way it used to.
Stay beautiful complex show; I have meta to write, and a need for dystopian future stories that you fill so perfectly. *clings*
I hated that Derek died, because I wanted more for him. But I loved that they killed him, that they went there, and it was just that, so blunt and fast and unsignalled, the way that death so often is. And poor John, finding his way to manhood even faster than anyone wanted him to.
As I said to DIYA upthread, I really don't want to lose Derek -- both because I'd become fond of him and because JOHN needs him. But in a show where the stakes are so high, if ALL the main characters ALWAYS make it through EVERYTHING, it starts to feel like cheating -- we don't have to worry about the characters, because obviously they're all going to make it.
The fact that this show doesn't cheat is one of the most brilliant and heartbreaking things about it.
It's been a long time since I trusted a show like this: to tell a good story, to pull no punches, to do things I didn't expect and yet keep everything connected.
Yes, this, totally this! I was unsure at the end of S1, but the way they've consistently pulled together story threads and kept everything going while tossing in more issues and resolving old ones is AMAZING.
I have no idea what is going to happen in this week's ep. Literally NO IDEA. I feel like ANYTHING could happen. But I have complete faith that whatever it is, it will feel exactly right -- not GOOD, necessarily, but like yes, this is what HAD to happen.
I have been thinking about John Henry and Cameron as the children of estranged parents: or, John Henry's parents are together but edging towards divorce, and Cameron's parents are in the midst of a terrifying fight. John tries to calm down Sarah, to make peace between her and Derek, in the beginning of 2x21, and Cameron is doing the same thing, looking back and forth between Derek and Sarah, saying, "Things happen here too," reminding Sarah she likes the desert, then telling Derek about Jesse's miscarriage to try to make peace between Derek and Sarah.
John Henry has a brother, but he has a sister, too.
One of the things I want to track more carefully when I rewatch this ep: John Henry's reactions to the video footage of Cameron.
And yeah, the extent to which Cameron really has become part of the family -- without anyone's intending her to! -- is fascinating. The question of what Cameron's learning has been in the background since the show shifted that thematic thread over to John Henry, but I don't think it's gone.
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It's how the deaths I have experienced in my life have gone down.
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Yeah, exactly. I'd become very fond of Derek! I don't want him to go! But in a show where the stakes are so high, if ALL the main characters ALWAYS make it through EVERYTHING, it starts to feel like cheating -- we don't have to worry about the characters, because obviously they're all going to make it.
I can't even think about the show being cancelled. I just literally cannot handle that thought. I stick my fingers in my ears and go LA LA LA LA LA everytime anyone mentions it.
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Stay beautiful complex show; I have meta to write, and a need for dystopian future stories that you fill so perfectly. *clings*
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This SHOW!
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As I said to DIYA upthread, I really don't want to lose Derek -- both because I'd become fond of him and because JOHN needs him. But in a show where the stakes are so high, if ALL the main characters ALWAYS make it through EVERYTHING, it starts to feel like cheating -- we don't have to worry about the characters, because obviously they're all going to make it.
The fact that this show doesn't cheat is one of the most brilliant and heartbreaking things about it.
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Yes, this, totally this! I was unsure at the end of S1, but the way they've consistently pulled together story threads and kept everything going while tossing in more issues and resolving old ones is AMAZING.
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John Henry has a brother, but he has a sister, too.
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And yeah, the extent to which Cameron really has become part of the family -- without anyone's intending her to! -- is fascinating. The question of what Cameron's learning has been in the background since the show shifted that thematic thread over to John Henry, but I don't think it's gone.
SO EXCITED FOR NEXT WEEK OMG.
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