Opening that can of worms again...

[hells_half_acre]

It's time for another post about everyone's favourite can of worms...Misogyny.

As you all know, I LOVED 7x08. But, there was that one little aspect (of perhaps many) that threw some people off ...mainly, the fact that Sam was "roofied" and tied to a bed. I thought it was a great send up of the film Misery, and since Becky didn't actually do

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"Stepford Wives"

[fannishliss]

PS on an entirely different note

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[claudiapriscus]

*applause*

well said.

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[fannishliss]

cheers!

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[khek]

I watched the original Stepford Wives as a kid. (It probably was the edited for TV movie-of-the-week version, since I know I wouldn't have gone to the movie theater. On the other hand, it could have been at the drive-in...the movie after I was supposed to be asleep). Anyway, the original was definitely billed and advertised as a horror movie. In retrospect, I'm rather surprised that my parents let me watch it.

I don't remember much of the movie, but I know that the whole thing I took away from it was that being forced to be "perfect" to fit into some male ideal would only lead to unhappiness and death. That being true to yourself and living to fill your own expectations (rather than a spouse's/parent's) is the only way to truly live.

Of course, some of that might also explain why I'm not married...

[redrikki]

It's not just Wedding Crashers and this latest Supernature episode. Check out TvTropes entry for "Rape is okay when it is female on male." This trope is rampant in our society. Someone else further upstream already gave an insightful breakdown of why this is considered "funny" so I wont repeat it here, but it is clearly pervasive. Moreover, it is damaging. I actually had a long conversation today with some female co-workers of the problem of living in a culture where men regularly assume they have the right to comment upon and touch (and rape) the bodies of women (and occasionally children). Even as people berate women for not being careful enough to avoid rape, most people acknowledge that it is a traumatic event. On the other hand, when female on male rape is portrayed as funny, it makes it that much harder for a man to deal and find support for his trauma. The patriarchy hurts everyone, and while women are most often and most visibly the victims and deserve support, failing to acknowledge other victims isn't helping anyone

[hells_half_acre]

I agree with all of that, of course. It's nice to know TvTropes has an entry for this stupid phenomenon. :P

Thanks!

[metallidean_grl]

This has been an interesting discussion going on here. And I do agree that society treats a woman being raped as awful, but when the one being raped as a man, not so much a big deal. Like it was said, the man is strong and powerful and shouldn't have a problem overpowering any woman trying to rape him. So, double-standard to me

[hells_half_acre]

I guess the rape of a man by a woman is not out there as much because it is harder to prove and thus has become this unspoken 'thing' out there that people don't like to talk about. Much like rape of women was 15-20 years ago. I just hope our society will catch up with the seriousness of male rape before it's too late. You can be the strongest man in the world and still be subject to molestation and rape if the perpetrator is clever enough, and in Becky's case, she was, in that she roofied Sam.It's also not out there as much because men just don't report it - BECAUSE they're afraid of being laughed at. And, you know, having rape be a comedy trope doesn't help

[metallidean_grl]

There definitely is a stigma out there for male rape and agree that would be the big reason why there is not as much male rape reported as women. After all men are the strong ones right? Men need to adjust their thinking as well for this issue not to be such a stigma out there that it is now.

Also agree that alot of the abuse comes from within a relationship and emotional abuse is a big one. Women are just as good and capable with emotional abuse as are men, it doesn't matter how physically strong or weak you are. And yes, that doesn't get reported or talked about near enough. I think we all have suffered from emotional abuse in some degree or another without even realizing it. I know I have.

[hells_half_acre]

Men need to adjust their thinking as well for this issue not to be such a stigma out there that it is now.

I agree. It's really what the article on Wedding Crashers is saying - and that claudiapriscus stated above too - misogyny hurts men too, and this stigma for male rape has it's roots in misogyny.

I have a friend who used to give talks on how to recognize emotional abuse. Years later, it took his girlfriend crossing the line into violence for him to recognize that he himself was trapped in an emotionally abusive relationship. It can really happen to anyone - as you say, it doesn't matter how physically strong or weak you are, or how smart you are.